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Title: 4 buss with mute groups?
Post by: Mike Allgeier on October 10, 2005, 10:09:06 AM
I'm looking for a new console for our church after ours was stolen last week. We had a DDA-CS3. Now that I have the option, I'd like to move up a little bit feature-wise. One of the most important things I want is mute groups. So far I've only found this option on 8 buss consoles. The Midas Venice looks nice (for a 4 buss) but it doesn't have mute groups and the Verona is out of my price range. I've pretty much settled on the A&H GL3800B. I can get a new GL3300 at a great price but from what I've read here and on other forums, the 3800 is a step up sonically from the 3300. Any thoughts on this or does anyone know of a 4 buss with mute groups? My budgete is around $6.5k.

Mike Allgeier
Title: Re: 4 buss with mute groups?
Post by: Rob Warren on October 10, 2005, 12:05:20 PM
I'm not sure what the prices are on these but:

Yamaha M2500

Soundcraft GB8

They should be right around your budget.
The yamaha is probably a little higher priced.  

the only thing I don't like about the features on the GB8 is the
fact that the aux sends are pre/post switchable only at the master section,
not per channel.  

Other thing you could consider is to buy 2 Yamaha O1V's
I believe you can link them together, but I'm not sure.  
Would be nice to have digital consoles.  

Rob
Title: Re: 4 buss with mute groups?
Post by: Rob Timmerman on October 10, 2005, 03:05:29 PM
How many channels?

Some other boards that come to mind
Allen-Heath ML3000
Mackie TT24

Title: Re: 4 buss with mute groups?
Post by: Justin Rygel on October 10, 2005, 04:03:44 PM
The Soundcraft GB4 is a 4 bus console with mute groups.  Its a bit cheaper than the GL3800 and lots of people seem to like the sound of both boards (i.e. it seems to be a personal preference as to which one actually sounds better).
Title: Re: 4 buss with mute groups?
Post by: Matt McCord on October 10, 2005, 08:56:36 PM
As far as digitals go, you can get a 01V96 for if you need fewer channels, or a DM1000 if you have the money for that.  Both are capable of mute groups (01V96 has 8 mute groups) and a bunch more.   The DM1000 is 4.5K to 5k if I remember right, then you would have plenty of budget to expand the channels with some extra channels to what ever you need.  
Title: Re: 4 buss with mute groups?
Post by: Mike Allgeier on October 12, 2005, 08:36:38 AM
Thanks guys. Sorry to take so long in replying. Our company's annual conference is this week so I've been out of the office all week. Just popped in for a moment.
I'm looking for a 32 input board. I've about decided on going ahead with an 8 buss an I've been pricing the Soundcraft GB8, A&H 2800 and A&H 3800B (28 mic ins, 4 extra stereo returns for a total of 6). Those are all hitting right in my $ range with the 2800 being the cheapest and the 3800 being the most expensive. Decisions, decisions..

Edit--
I really like the Midas line and especially the Verona but it's just out of my league price wise.

Mike