ProSoundWeb Community

Sound Reinforcement - Forums for Live Sound Professionals - Your Displayed Name Must Be Your Real Full Name To Post In The Live Sound Forums => LAB Lounge => Topic started by: bruce gering on July 08, 2013, 05:49:47 PM

Title: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: bruce gering on July 08, 2013, 05:49:47 PM
Hi Everyone. I just picked up some Community SLS 960 cabinets (4) that were in excellent shape. I then went on the Community website and downloaded the tunings and loaded them into my DR 260. These tunings just don't sound correct with the Drive Rack. Way too much low midrange with a noticeable honk as well. They sound dark and have no sizzle on top. I kept going through the settings to see if I had something askew, but everything was just as published. i did use an 8va bandwidth to Q factor converter software so that was correct in case anyone was wondering.

What I could use is someones DR 260 tunings (Full Range or Bi-amp, I can do both for very little effort). OR could someone tell me what type of processor the Community settings were based on?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: John Chiara on July 08, 2013, 10:17:11 PM
Hi Everyone. I just picked up some Community SLS 960 cabinets (4) that were in excellent shape. I then went on the Community website and downloaded the tunings and loaded them into my DR 260. These tunings just don't sound correct with the Drive Rack. Way too much low midrange with a noticeable honk as well. They sound dark and have no sizzle on top. I kept going through the settings to see if I had something askew, but everything was just as published. i did use an 8va bandwidth to Q factor converter software so that was correct in case anyone was wondering.

What I could use is someones DR 260 tunings (Full Range or Bi-amp, I can do both for very little effort). OR could someone tell me what type of processor the Community settings were based on?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

I expect that you have run them passively and all components are working? I used to biamp mine In an install but using them as a portable rig I run them passive.
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: EvanKirkendall on July 08, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
Hi Everyone. I just picked up some Community SLS 960 cabinets (4) that were in excellent shape. I then went on the Community website and downloaded the tunings and loaded them into my DR 260. These tunings just don't sound correct with the Drive Rack. Way too much low midrange with a noticeable honk as well. They sound dark and have no sizzle on top. I kept going through the settings to see if I had something askew, but everything was just as published. i did use an 8va bandwidth to Q factor converter software so that was correct in case anyone was wondering.

What I could use is someones DR 260 tunings (Full Range or Bi-amp, I can do both for very little effort). OR could someone tell me what type of processor the Community settings were based on?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


The SLS960's are some killer cabs. Stupid efficient and clean sounding. I power mine with a QSC PL6.0PFC(2 per channel), and process them with a Lake. I hardly ever see past -20 on the amps, and engineers are always happy with them.

Here's what I'm doing in my Lake. I'd give it a try, should be "close enough" in the Driverack.

HPF: 110hz, 4th order LR

EQ:
1: 251hz, -5, .33 BW
2: 508hz, -5 .41 BW
3: 2.45k, -4.5 .52 BW
4: 3k, -3, .39 BW
5: 4.5k, -6 .3 BW
6: 9.6k, +6 1.58 BW

I forget how many EQ points you have available, but if you run out, just lose the 3k cut, and make the 2.5 & 4.5k cuts a little wider.



Evan
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: John Chiara on July 09, 2013, 02:57:56 PM

The SLS960's are some killer cabs. Stupid efficient and clean sounding. I power mine with a QSC PL6.0PFC(2 per channel), and process them with a Lake. I hardly ever see past -20 on the amps, and engineers are always happy with them.

Here's what I'm doing in my Lake. I'd give it a try, should be "close enough" in the Driverack.

HPF: 110hz, 4th order LR

EQ:
1: 251hz, -5, .33 BW
2: 508hz, -5 .41 BW
3: 2.45k, -4.5 .52 BW
4: 3k, -3, .39 BW
5: 4.5k, -6 .3 BW
6: 9.6k, +6 1.58 BW

I forget how many EQ points you have available, but if you run out, just lose the 3k cut, and make the 2.5 & 4.5k cuts a little wider.



Evan

Looks right to me. If you get those hotspots tamed they should work great!
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: bruce gering on July 09, 2013, 04:44:08 PM

The SLS960's are some killer cabs. Stupid efficient and clean sounding. I power mine with a QSC PL6.0PFC(2 per channel), and process them with a Lake. I hardly ever see past -20 on the amps, and engineers are always happy with them.

Here's what I'm doing in my Lake. I'd give it a try, should be "close enough" in the Driverack.

HPF: 110hz, 4th order LR

EQ:
1: 251hz, -5, .33 BW
2: 508hz, -5 .41 BW
3: 2.45k, -4.5 .52 BW
4: 3k, -3, .39 BW
5: 4.5k, -6 .3 BW
6: 9.6k, +6 1.58 BW

I forget how many EQ points you have available, but if you run out, just lose the 3k cut, and make the 2.5 & 4.5k cuts a little wider.



Evan

Well I'm not sure what to do, since my DR 260 only has 4 bands per output. I could use the input EQ I suppose, but I don't know how that's going to work. Anyone ever do that?
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: Scott Wagner on July 09, 2013, 06:38:22 PM
Well I'm not sure what to do, since my DR 260 only has 4 bands per output. I could use the input EQ I suppose, but I don't know how that's going to work. Anyone ever do that?
It shouldn't matter if the EQ is done on input, output, or a combination of the two.
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: Josh Billings on July 09, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
Here are the settings that I used when I had them and they sounded pretty great. I think I nixed EQ1 though
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: Oscar Castro on July 09, 2013, 11:12:28 PM
Hey Evan, by any chance you have the settings for the 920's?

Thanks
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: EvanKirkendall on July 09, 2013, 11:22:26 PM
Here are the settings that I used when I had them and they sounded pretty great. I think I nixed EQ1 though

I had started with the "default" settings from Community and wasn't too happy. Just too much bite in the mid range.

Take a few bands on the input side, and a few on the output side. Doesn't matter where the EQ occurs with a passive box, as long as it happens!

Oscar- I will have SLS920 presets next week. I'm taking delivery of 6 on Thursday.



Evan
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: bruce gering on July 10, 2013, 02:03:47 PM
Hi Everyone. I just picked up some Community SLS 960 cabinets (4) that were in excellent shape. I then went on the Community website and downloaded the tunings and loaded them into my DR 260. These tunings just don't sound correct with the Drive Rack. Way too much low midrange with a noticeable honk as well. They sound dark and have no sizzle on top. I kept going through the settings to see if I had something askew, but everything was just as published. i did use an 8va bandwidth to Q factor converter software so that was correct in case anyone was wondering.

What I could use is someones DR 260 tunings (Full Range or Bi-amp, I can do both for very little effort). OR could someone tell me what type of processor the Community settings were based on?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Thanks guys! i will try Evan's settings and go from there. The 6dB boost at 9.6K at 1.58BW seems like what I'm looking for on the top end sizzle. The other deeper cuts on the  midrange should reduce that honkiness as well.
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: Josh Billings on July 10, 2013, 11:26:40 PM
Thanks guys! i will try Evan's settings and go from there. The 6dB boost at 9.6K at 1.58BW seems like what I'm looking for on the top end sizzle. The other deeper cuts on the  midrange should reduce that honkiness as well.

Keep in mind the deafer you are, the more sizzle it will be lacking :)
Title: Re: SLS 960 Processer and tunings
Post by: bruce gering on July 11, 2013, 11:23:13 AM
Keep in mind the deafer you are, the more sizzle it will be lacking :)

True that, but I don't think I lost all that much in the manner of a few days when I switched from U15's to the SLS 960's.  ;)