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Title: Need help with automating box in conference room.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 10, 2017, 02:26:38 am
I was discussing this on the live board, but was advised that there my be more answers over here. . .

http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,163809.0.html

Currently looking at using a Qu16C or Qu Pac due to budgetary constraints. I spoke to the principal and estimated a Yamaha MRX7D was going to run about three times the price installed with the necessary expander and some programming, etc. . .was told that is too much. I spoke to Biamp and looks like Tesira will price out about the same as the Yamaha option.

Need 13+ channels of automixing, preferably Dugan. . .the rest is pretty standard fare, broadcast mix, remote PA mix and output, 13 open mics plus a couple of A/V or computer inputs.

Title: Re: Need help with automating box in conference room.
Post by: Cailen Waddell on July 10, 2017, 07:28:00 am
Why Tesira?  I believe Audia will do everything you need and it is generally cheaper.  On the used market you can get an audia frame from eBay for $100 or $200....   


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Title: Re: Need help with automating box in conference room.
Post by: Robert Healey on July 10, 2017, 10:46:26 am
I was discussing this on the live board, but was advised that there my be more answers over here. . .

http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,163809.0.html

Currently looking at using a Qu16C or Qu Pac due to budgetary constraints. I spoke to the principal and estimated a Yamaha MRX7D was going to run about three times the price installed with the necessary expander and some programming, etc. . .was told that is too much. I spoke to Biamp and looks like Tesira will price out about the same as the Yamaha option.

Need 13+ channels of automixing, preferably Dugan. . .the rest is pretty standard fare, broadcast mix, remote PA mix and output, 13 open mics plus a couple of A/V or computer inputs.

A QSC Core110f might fit the bill. QSC also has it's own touchscreen integrated into Q-Sys, so depending on the complexity of the installation you may not need an external control system (Crestron, AMX).
Title: Re: Need help with automating box in conference room.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 10, 2017, 10:40:00 pm
Why Tesira? 

When I spoke to Biamp, they referred me to Tesira. Doesn't appear to me that the Audia has automixing.

Title: Re: Need help with automating box in conference room.
Post by: Cailen Waddell on July 10, 2017, 10:44:38 pm
When I spoke to Biamp, they referred me to Tesira. Doesn't appear to me that the Audia has automixing.

I can pop open audia software tomorrow and double check but I'm pretty sure they do and their cut sheet on the website also says they do....


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Title: Re: Need help with automating box in conference room.
Post by: Glen Kelley on July 11, 2017, 07:15:02 pm
When I spoke to Biamp, they referred me to Tesira. Doesn't appear to me that the Audia has automixing.

It does. The automix exists as a mixer block, and it has assignable priority/mic hold and assignable NOM. Regular or AEC inputs may be routed to an automixer. Unless something has changed, Audia uses Cobranet, which could be an issue depending on your environment. Tesira uses AVB, but there is a Dante version, too.

Extron DMP 128 (12 in, 8 out, fixed architecture) also has automixing and has an expansion output (or a Dante version) to link multiple boxes. It will likely be less than Audia or Tesira. Creating a control interface for an Extron system will be more difficult if you need it.