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Title: Balanced tilter substitute?
Post by: Mario Roman on February 01, 2011, 10:09:45 PM
Hi All,

I was ready to purchase a pair of balanced tilters until I found out that it would be $120.00 to ship them to the states. I'm getting reading to place and order for a pair of Danley SM96's and thought it would be nice to finally be able to aim my FOH cabs at their intended audience. Does anyone know if there is a U.S. distributor for these? I've googled it to no avail. If not can anyone suggest a similar product that may cost less to obtain. I love the design of the balanced tilter but can't stomach the fact that it'd cost me almost a third of the price of the product just to get it shipped here. Thanks to all.


Mario
Title: Re: Balanced tilter substitute?
Post by: Bennett Prescott on February 01, 2011, 10:18:57 PM
You might ask Nimrod Webber, since they're his design and he has them made to spec in Israel, AFAIK.
Title: Re: Balanced tilter substitute?
Post by: Steve Hurt on February 01, 2011, 11:23:24 PM
From what you said (120 being a third of the cost) it sounds like they are quite a bit cheaper now than they were when I bought them.

I have no regrets though, they work great!
Title: Re: Balanced tilter substitute?
Post by: Jay Barracato on February 02, 2011, 06:38:26 AM
Even if there was a distributor, the cost of shipping would still be rolled into the total cost.

They work great. I have no problem with the price I paid given the design,workmanship, and materials. The only other options I have seen that would allow the same flexibility in aiming involves truss and cable.
Title: Re: Balanced tilter substitute?
Post by: frank kayser on February 02, 2011, 11:13:51 AM
Even if there was a distributor, the cost of shipping would still be rolled into the total cost.

They work great. I have no problem with the price I paid given the design,workmanship, and materials. The only other options I have seen that would allow the same flexibility in aiming involves truss and cable.
+1
A little steeper price than I would like, but everything else Jay said is right on the money.  I had mine shipped via slow-boat-to-China rate, and it got here in less than a week - 2 days, IIRC. 
The other thing about the cost was it was a small production run, and Nimrod had to amortize the setup/tooling into a relatively few pieces.  I think Nimrod did a phenominal job - design and quality production for a reasonable price.  Would I like to pay less? 
Title: Re: Balanced tilter substitute?
Post by: Mario Roman on February 02, 2011, 11:54:14 AM
All right you guys talked me into it. :)  I'm glad everyone is so happy with the B.T.  Having only seen it on the web, I wasn't sure how well it functioned. Your posts are the confirmation I needed, thanks. Looks like the "big guys" missed the boat on this design. I'm glad and I hope his invention does well. There's definately a market for it. Thanks again to everyone.

Mario
Title: Re: Balanced tilter substitute?
Post by: Jay Barracato on February 02, 2011, 04:52:37 PM
All right you guys talked me into it. :)  I'm glad everyone is so happy with the B.T.  Having only seen it on the web, I wasn't sure how well it functioned. Your posts are the confirmation I needed, thanks. Looks like the "big guys" missed the boat on this design. I'm glad and I hope his invention does well. There's definately a market for it. Thanks again to everyone.

Mario

To steal Art Welter's line, "point the speakers where the people are." I have been using my smaller K10's for more and more shows where I used to put up HPR152's. The BT gives me great control of where I put the sound, and since a lot of my shows have seated audiences, I put put the lighter speakers up high aiming down at the crowd and prevent bounce off of the rear wall.
Title: Re: Balanced tilter substitute?
Post by: Nimrod Webber on February 03, 2011, 05:47:31 AM
Hi guys,

Thank you for the compliments. I'm glad to hear that the BTs work as intended.

As I've mentioned on different occasions, the BT-12 was the outcome of prior long use of another type of tilter,
and the conclusion that vertical aiming is as important as horizontal aiming, or any other adjustment, dialing and tuning applied to a PA system.

The advantages and benefits of tilting cabs to suit the application are many and obvious.
When this is achievable as easily as panning the cabs, it really becomes another handy tool in the hands of the sound tech.

The current lower price is result of a bigger production butch I made. I know the (Express) shipping cost is still a real pain,
I am currently checking a sea/ground shipping option. This should cut the shipping cost considerably
(at the cost of longer delivery time, of course).
   
Unfortunately, I am still not in a position to negotiate distribution or other business options but hopefully, eventually, this will take place.


 :)
Title: Re: Balanced tilter substitute?
Post by: Nimrod Webber on February 07, 2011, 05:38:52 AM
OK,

I've added alternative shipping options. Hope this helps...
See here: http://www.bt-12.com/index.php (http://www.bt-12.com/index.php)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/boniton/Closup.jpg)

Regards,

Nimrod  :)