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Title: High impact that goes low (30 hz strong)
Post by: Josh Billings on March 16, 2012, 06:58:12 AM
Contemplating getting some new subs. I currently use EAW DCS2 subwoofers (4 of them in a block) and was thinking of going with something that can go lower (strong 30 hz) and I want to make sure they have plenty of impact too (chest thump)

Size / Weight not a big deal (Install). Would need to be at least as loud as the DCS2s (hopefully as efficient, but not super important)

Anybody have any suggestions on their favorites?

Josh Billings
Title: Re: High impact that goes low (30 hz strong)
Post by: Charlie Zureki on March 16, 2012, 07:28:58 AM
Contemplating getting some new subs. I currently use EAW DCS2 subwoofers (4 of them in a block) and was thinking of going with something that can go lower (strong 30 hz) and I want to make sure they have plenty of impact too (chest thump)

Size / Weight not a big deal (Install). Would need to be at least as loud as the DCS2s (hopefully as efficient, but not super important)

Anybody have any suggestions on their favorites?

Josh Billings

   d&b  B2s

   Lots a thump, lots of low end...butter churners.

   Hammer
Title: Re: High impact that goes low (30 hz strong)
Post by: Charlie Zureki on March 16, 2012, 08:46:59 PM
  Okay,

   What about a couple of  Danley TH 412 cabinets ?   According to their specs they extent below 30hz and, at more output than the B2s ?   I've never heard them, but, according to a few friends, they are more than adequate for a club.

  Hammer
Title: Re: High impact that goes low (30 hz strong)
Post by: Iain.Macdonald on March 17, 2012, 04:41:58 PM
Contemplating getting some new subs. I currently use EAW DCS2 subwoofers (4 of them in a block) and was thinking of going with something that can go lower (strong 30 hz) and I want to make sure they have plenty of impact too (chest thump)

Size / Weight not a big deal (Install). Would need to be at least as loud as the DCS2s (hopefully as efficient, but not super important)

Anybody have any suggestions on their favorites?

Josh Billings

Not sure whether they have reached you yet - Outline Lab 21 HS or HS SP. Haven't heard them, so not a recommendation. You might also check with Martin Audio if they are releasing anything this month at Frankfurt.

Iain.
Title: Re: High impact that goes low (30 hz strong)
Post by: Marjan Milosevic on March 18, 2012, 11:31:48 AM
   d&b  B2s

   Lots a thump, lots of low end...butter churners.

   Hammer

B2's dont have a strong 30Hz. They do 40 but not 30. Their output is quite reduced in infra mode and they lose the thump too in infra mode. The thump is in the 70-120Hz region.
Title: Re: High impact that goes low (30 hz strong)
Post by: Stu McDoniel on March 30, 2012, 09:48:08 PM
Contemplating getting some new subs. I currently use EAW DCS2 subwoofers (4 of them in a block) and was thinking of going with something that can go lower (strong 30 hz) and I want to make sure they have plenty of impact too (chest thump)

Size / Weight not a big deal (Install). Would need to be at least as loud as the DCS2s (hopefully as efficient, but not super important)

Anybody have any suggestions on their favorites?

Josh Billings
One or two of these.  144db!  Nice
Danley
TH 221
   

144 dB Max spl
   

109 dB sensitivity
   

22 Hz – 180 Hz magnitude response
   

6000 W power rating
   

60 x 60 x 28 dimensions
   

480 Lbs. weight

http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/tapped_horn.asp?MODEL=TH%20221
Title: Re: High impact that goes low (30 hz strong)
Post by: Doug Fowler on March 30, 2012, 09:57:48 PM
One or two of these.  144db!  Nice
Danley
TH 221
   

144 dB Max spl
   

109 dB sensitivity
   

22 Hz – 180 Hz magnitude response
   

6000 W power rating
   

60 x 60 x 28 dimensions
   

480 Lbs. weight

http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/tapped_horn.asp?MODEL=TH%20221

So you have experience with these subs?
Title: Re: High impact that goes low (30 hz strong)
Post by: Lee Buckalew on March 31, 2012, 07:06:16 PM
Contemplating getting some new subs. I currently use EAW DCS2 subwoofers (4 of them in a block) and was thinking of going with something that can go lower (strong 30 hz) and I want to make sure they have plenty of impact too (chest thump)

Size / Weight not a big deal (Install). Would need to be at least as loud as the DCS2s (hopefully as efficient, but not super important)

Anybody have any suggestions on their favorites?

Josh Billings

What sort of music?
some subs really "thump" but are not very musical for other styles.
See if you can get a listen to the Martin ASX.  Very high output, -3 at 30Hz.  Self powered, built in DSP that's tuneable.  May do what you need.

Lee
Title: Re: High impact that goes low (30 hz strong)
Post by: Doug Fowler on March 31, 2012, 07:12:15 PM
B2's dont have a strong 30Hz. They do 40 but not 30. Their output is quite reduced in infra mode and they lose the thump too in infra mode. The thump is in the 70-120Hz region.

Correct on all point ;-)

Strong 30 Hz narrows the field quite a bit.
Title: Re: High impact that goes low (30 hz strong)
Post by: Greg_Cameron on April 02, 2012, 05:35:49 PM
Correct on all point ;-)

Strong 30 Hz narrows the field quite a bit.

Rat Super Subs. Center tuned at 32Hz with a low cutoff at 20Hz, solidly usable down to 25Hz. They use a pair of RCF 18s with the 4.5" voice coil. Run up to 3 boxes off of one Lab fP6400. Preferred processing is any recent XTA model.