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Title: PIN MIC
Post by: sean on January 14, 2005, 08:03:02 PM
“…It looks like a Tack!” I heard one say as I walked into the PIN MIC booth at the AES show. This lav mic is quite unique. The pin on the mic is the connector. The wire is run under the talents shirt. The pin pierces through the garment and connects to the wire/backplate. This interesting invention is geared toward the user who wishes to hide the mic from the camera or eyes view. This unique concept in lav mics has several different ways of concealing the mic from sight. One can glue a button to the sleeve or attach a broach or logo to the sleeve making the PIN MIC virtually unseen. The sound quality of the PIN MIC is FANTASTIC with an almost flat frequency response and close to zero handling noise. I have confidence that this mic will be a staple to the audio/video/film industry in the very near future.index.php/fa/962/0/index.php/fa/962/0/
Title: Re: PIN MIC
Post by: Brian Adams on January 14, 2005, 08:58:44 PM
They look interesting, and seem to be priced reasonably, assunming they sound alright and are failry durable.

They look very useful for film/TV, as well as corporate events and presentations.  Somehow I doubt something like this will catch on for theatre, simply because of the fact that it can't be headworn, and maybe because it's only available with an omni pattern.  And it's obviously not appropriate for live music.

One of the things that would concern me is the security of the connection.  It looks like it would be really easy for this to get popped off during a show.  I also would be concerned about the reliability of the connections after being connected and disconnected repeatedly.

And forgive me for saying so, the tone of your post, your first post incidentally, reads kind of like a press release.  Since you aren't trying to sell anything, it's not really a commercial post, but I honestly can't tell if you A)work for the company and are trying to promote the product by posting here, or B)are just a really good writer.  Or maybe a little of both I guess. Wink
Title: Re: PIN MIC
Post by: sean on January 14, 2005, 11:06:40 PM
Thanx for looking!
  Indeed a very interesting and admirable concept. Yes it is an omni directional design geared mainly for film/broadcast/live P.A. (excluding vocal performance/singing) The PIN MIC is currently being utilized on a few television programs including but not limited to "ER" "SCRUBS" and "Entertainment Tonight" to name a few. I am truely confident that in the very near future, this lav mic will be seen (Not seen) all over television. I am not attempting to sell the product directly. I am simply putting out the good word to the people who will soon benifit from this unique "Elegant Solution" to the common lav.

-Sean
Title: Re: PIN MIC
Post by: Phil Ouellette on January 15, 2005, 08:01:12 AM
sean wrote on Fri, 14 January 2005 23:06

Thanx for looking!
  Indeed a very interesting and admirable concept. Yes it is an omni directional design geared mainly for film/broadcast/live P.A. (excluding vocal performance/singing) The PIN MIC is currently being utilized on a few television programs including but not limited to "ER" "SCRUBS" and "Entertainment Tonight" to name a few. I am truely confident that in the very near future, this lav mic will be seen (Not seen) all over television. I am not attempting to sell the product directly. I am simply putting out the good word to the people who will soon benifit from this unique "Elegant Solution" to the common lav.

-Sean


Sean,

What is your connection to this product?  You are talking like a press release.  If you are not a mouthpiece or salesman for this product then you must be a very "interesting" person to have a conversation with.

Phil
Title: Re: PIN MIC
Post by: sean on January 15, 2005, 10:32:59 AM
I am connected with this product on the distribution end. I am not attempting to directly sell this fine product. I am simply generating a "Buzz" on this forum. Feel free to investigate the PIN MIC further via search engines etc.

S
Title: Re: PIN MIC
Post by: Andy Leviss on January 15, 2005, 02:26:12 PM
Y'know, I'd think a lot more highly of this product and other products you may distribute if you'd been up front about that to begin with. I'd also think a lot more highly of it (and you) if you'd come here and contributed/participated in the discussions here on a less commercial level before posting a plug for the product you distribute.

That's generally what differentiates spam from acceptable commercial posts on most forum. If you're an active participant who occasionally posts an ad and is honest that it's an ad up front, it's no problem. Fellow community members tend to get royally pissed when you show up out of the blue, plug a product, and then vanish into the ethers.

Of course, I'm only a member, not staff here, so I can only tell you that this is my opinion/advice.

FWIW,
Andy
Title: Re: PIN MIC
Post by: sean on January 15, 2005, 10:22:07 PM
There was no harm intended. Simply putting the word out about a positive aspect involving mics as we all know them. I do not desire to generate nagetivity on behalf of a positive audio solution. Please take that into consideration before jumoing to any conclusions. Do the research you desire on this topic and spread the good word out to the community in which you associate yourself in. That is what discussion topic forums are about. and that is the reason in which I posted a new topic on this forum. I hope you can understand this.
-S  
Title: Re: PIN MIC
Post by: John Roberts {JR} on January 15, 2005, 10:58:30 PM
Did you read the rules for posting?

JR
Title: Re: PIN MIC
Post by: sean on January 15, 2005, 11:49:03 PM
No I did not read. Perhaps I should have. I suppose this is the end of this topic. I only expected positive response to this subject and my mail is now consumed with negative comment. The true audio professional will study the subject and hopefully benefit from the knowledge gained from it. Saying that I will no longer post comment on this topic.
No harm intended.
-S
Title: Re: PIN MIC
Post by: Geri O'Neil on January 16, 2005, 12:00:26 AM
Sean, I hope you can understand that the regulars here are very quick to call folks when the rules of engagement are broken. The marketing of new products by anyone connected with the manufacturing, sale, or distribution of that product is clearly against the rules set forth by the powers that be here. Whether you like it or not, that's how the hell it is. The regulars around here are tend to defend those rules quite vigorously because this is one of very few places, if not the only place where live audio can be discussed without wading through flamewars, baiting, and marketing ca-ca. There's all kinds of "read this first before posting!" notices here and the marketing of new products is covered explicitly on those notices that you chose to ignore when you posted this.

"Oh, but this place is called 'product review', I'm not doing anything wrong!"

Oh, yes, you are. Again, the deal-breaker is that you are associated with the product. This area is for users not affiliated with the product in any way as in the post I made about the new Yamaha SPX-2000 several months back. I'm a Kombat Audio guy and a buddy of mine brought his new SPX-2000 by a gig for me to play with and I wrote about that experience here. You are, indirectly or otherwise, connected with the sale and promotion of this product. That is one thing in itself, but you also failed to make mention of this when you originally posted. Most everyone here will consider that dishonest and mis-leading. Period. It's really too bad, too, because your product looks interesting. But rules are rules are rules are rules. Actually, since the moderators of this forum have asked participants to refrain from moderating posts, I'm breaking a few rules myself in doing this. But I just can't help myself when I see such a flagrant violation of the rules going on here.

Don't be surprised to see this entire topic deleted by the moderators very soon. My apologies for my part of the rule-breaking today.. Embarassed

Respectfully,
Geri O
Title: Re: PIN MIC
Post by: Geri O'Neil on January 16, 2005, 12:04:15 AM
sean wrote on Sat, 15 January 2005 22:49

No I did not read. Perhaps I should have. I suppose this is the end of this topic. I only expected positive response to this subject and my mail is now consumed with negative comment. The true audio professional will study the subject and hopefully benefit from the knowledge gained from it. Saying that I will no longer post comment on this topic.
No harm intended.
-S

So now anyone that responded to this is not a true audio professional. I hope your last two sentences are true.

Geri O