Lee Brenkman wrote on Tue, 11 March 2008 11:40 |
A worthy endeavor Binkster One more that you left out - after all he did record AND do live sound for "The King" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Porter_(audio) And Fred Catero and Abe Jacobs need to be added to the list as well Fred, not only because he did great work, but because he was one of the first engineers at Columbia to insist that engineers get credits on liner notes. Abe because he revolutionized theater sound and pretty much INVENTED the job description "sound designer. And maybe Bob Cohen and Charlie Butten, if for no other reason that they made it easier for tech crews to actually TALK to each other at loud live shows. Can you imagine a world WITHOUT ClearCom or the equivalent? Cheers, Lee |
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There's still many more... -Bink |
Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Tue, 11 March 2008 13:41 |
[snip] Bob Cavin (McCune, Apogee, Furman; console designer, digital amplifier control; first "blackbox" amp/crossover/limiter; first monitor mixer; first multi-angle stage wedge) |
Michael Prasuhn wrote on Tue, 11 March 2008 20:00 |
So is he the one responsible for that pair of prototype SM6s that everyone tried to hoard all the time? They had a vertical orientation with the horn appearing above the woofer, instead of beside it. I don't believe they could pole mount. Probably number ASM6001 and ASM6002. Supposedly they sounded way way better than the standard SM6s. Last time I was in the Anaheim they were trying to figure out how to keep 'em around and not ship them back to the main office. -Mikey P |
John Roberts {JR} wrote on Wed, 12 March 2008 07:46 |
I applaud this effort. I don't think a few hour session at an AES show could do justice to even a small fraction of this list. This strikes me as perhaps a good longer term project for local AES chapters. First to identify important contributions made by people in their region and then to document that. These local efforts could be consolidated into a larger whole. Certainly AES efforts could be cross linked to WIKI, etc. I regret that some of these individuals are already gone so they can't be interviewed but associates and subordinates may still be findable. This should be an ongoing project, not just a one time deal. The IEEE from time to time published a historical overview along similar lines across the broader category of electronics. There was (is?) an Audio Museum that IIRC was associated with the AES, but this was more old hardware than "engineer" organized. Perhaps a more logical organization of this is by tracing the progress of technology and people associated with those technology milestones can be cross linked. Many companies also have corporate museums either formal or informally, that could be documented by willing employees. This is a potentially massive project and you will get different short lists from different people, but that's fine. It's better to have too many entries than not enough. In many cases the historical individual will be associated with one major series of products or technology, like Dan Dugan with his automatic mixing invention, so this alternate organization may be academic, the people and what they do/did is inextricably linked together. JR |
John Roberts {JR} wrote on Wed, 12 March 2008 11:09 |
Audio is a small world indeed. JR |
Dave Barnett wrote on Tue, 18 March 2008 11:29 |
On the EE side, don't forget Dick Burwen (or is it Burwin...?), who came up with a lot of nifty EQ circuits. |
Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Tue, 18 March 2008 13:40 | ||
Good call. A search at the AES e-library finds him here: Automatic Noise Filter for Telephone Lines by Burwen, Richard S. (1974) A Wide Dynamic Range Program Equalizer by Burwen, Richard S. (1975) -Bink |
Mike {AB} Butler wrote on Tue, 18 March 2008 13:45 |
Bink, On your Ampex list, you forgot Harold Lindsay, founder of modern magnetic recording, Emilar, and general all-around great accoustician.. SM4.. used an awful lot of those on gigs. Hey, they just needed something more than 100W / ch to wake them up.. haha.. Nice sounding, though! Regards, |
Jake Scudder wrote on Tue, 18 March 2008 11:47 |
Abe has his book that is being released officially at USITT, I believe. Judging from the pictures and stories he was sharing and sorting through late last year I assume it will have a lot of historical information, not only about himself, but about McCune, Meyer, etc. |
Brad Nelson wrote on Tue, 11 March 2008 16:33 |
I would also include Stan Miller on that list. I think he was among the first if not the first to safely "fly" speaker cabinets, among many other accomplishments. |
Art Welter wrote on Thu, 20 March 2008 22:25 |
Got to use a Stanel system in Kearny Nebraska in 1978 using aux-fed subs, don't know for sure if Stan was the first to use them, but they had the concept well sorted out at that time, 30 years ago. Helped that he already had a prototype Yamaha PM-2000, while many of the rest of us were slogging along on PM-1000s or the like with only 2 aux sends. Art Welter |
Art Welter wrote on Thu, 20 March 2008 20:25 |
Got to use a Stanel system in Kearny Nebraska in 1978 using aux-fed subs, don't know for sure if Stan was the first to use them, but they had the concept well sorted out at that time, 30 years ago. Helped that he already had a prototype Yamaha PM-2000, while many of the rest of us were slogging along on PM-1000s or the like with only 2 aux sends. Art Welter |
Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Fri, 21 March 2008 19:13 | ||
What was Stan's full name? I can't seem to find out in an online search. -Bink |
John Roberts {JR} wrote on Fri, 21 March 2008 17:44 | ||||
perhaps this stan? http://www.prosoundweb.com/live/articles/diamond/stan.shtml JR |
John Roberts {JR} wrote on Fri, 21 March 2008 18:44 | ||||
perhaps this stan? http://www.prosoundweb.com/live/articles/diamond/stan.shtml JR |
Brad Nelson wrote on Mon, 24 March 2008 16:44 |
Thats not surprising. Stan has a thriving bed and breakfast resort in Big Bear. He really prefers his privacy when he is "off the road" so you usually don't hear too much from him, unless Neil Diamond is out touring. It would be great if Bink or someone could sit down with him sometime and do an extensive interview about the history of live audio, and his many contributions. I'd love to hear the stories of how he came up with, the first monitor rig. flying his speaker cabinets for the first time, and more recently his input on digital mixers. {Yamaha in particular} A friend reminded me the other day that he was the first to put together a digital mixing system based around the Yamaha Promix O1. Rumour has it that Neal may be going out on tour again and if he does it will be interesting to see what Stan decides to try this time out. Best regards Brad. |
Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Fri, 21 March 2008 19:13 | ||
What was Stan's full name? I can't seem to find out in an online search. -Bink |
Scott Raymond (Scott R) wrote on Tue, 25 March 2008 06:57 |
...Lots of interesting tidbits and trivia if you google Stanal Sound |
Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Tue, 18 March 2008 16:47 |
...Hopefully Abe will have something on Brian G. Wachner of BGW. I read on DIYAudio that Wachner was the kind of patriotic guy who would only design with parts made within his country (USA). He'd be pretty stymied trying to sustain that commitment today... |
Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Tue, 25 March 2008 18:48 |
PLEASE, somebody send me a nice and sharp straight-on photo of an old BGW logo as painted on the chassis of an amplifier or something. Or upload the photo yourself and put it in the article. I'd like to have the old, familiar logo represented on this page as well as the flashy new corporate one. Actually, any pictures or scans of BGW stuff will add value. |
Art Welter wrote on Wed, 26 March 2008 20:04 |
Scott, The show was Sha-Na-Na at the State Fairgrounds. Sorry for misspelling Stanal sound, guess the old Standel (could also be misspelled) from that era partially swamped the memory banks. The Stanley Screamers were good stuff! |
Charlie Hammer wrote on Tue, 22 April 2008 10:43 |
Don't forget: Dr. Amar Bose Dr. F. Alton Everest Dr. Eugene Patronis, Jr. Dr. Robert (Bob)Carver Mr. Mahlon D. Burkhard Thomas Edison William Sabine Leo Beranek Craig Anderton Harry Olson Richard Heyser |
Charlie Hammer wrote on Tue, 22 April 2008 16:55 |
Yeh, Thanks Bink I read only your first posting, I'm killing time (between Projects) and have been reading a lot of posts but, my failure to catch-up ... has caught up it seems. |
Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Tue, 22 April 2008 17:24 |
The past hour somebody using an anonymous IP address from the Costa Mesa area has been greatly expanding the QSC page. Other manufacturing folks could take a tip from that. -Bink |
Guy Nix wrote on Thu, 24 July 2008 09:13 |
Hey Bink, I may have missed it, but I didn't see Bob Heil mentioned here. I'm sure he has a lot more pictures than the ones he already posted here:http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/23816/0/ Sorry if I missed it, or it doesn't belong here. Guy |
Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Mon, 28 July 2008 13:55 | ||
Heil most certainly deserves a page on Wikipedia. -Bink |
Kevin Rusch wrote on Wed, 27 August 2008 11:05 |
I might have missed it but I have yet to find These names in the post on the topic. But quite frankly the list should not even be started without the following names. Richard H. Small A. Neville Thiele E. C. Wente Harry Nyquist Dr. Harry F. Olson Benjamin B. Bauer Don Keele |