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Wondering if anyone has heard of what they might be bringing out to replace the SC-48? Should be about that time?
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I'm pretty sure that they meant the S3L-X to be the SC48 replacement.
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I think that the S3L was a more proof of concept product. It uses the AAX plugins, but still has limited plugin slots. The biggest issue is the controller, not really suitable for anything other than smaller programmed shows. Imho you need decent number of faders and quick access to complete eq/compressor/gate/plugin parameters to be able to work quickly. The computing power for desks isn't to much of an issue these days, use ability and access is everything.
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I'm pretty sure that they meant the S3L-X to be the SC48 replacement.
CL5 with Multirack :D
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CL5 with Multirack :D
I couldn't agree more.
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CL5 with Multirack :D
+1
Bill
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I'd agree with this, but price wise it's quite a bit more expensive, than the SC48.
CL5 with Multirack :D
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I'm hoping Avid releases an "S4L" - something between the Tinker_Toy S3L and the "more than we need" S6L. I hope they do it soon or we'll buy have to move away from Avid.
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I'm hoping Avid releases an "S4L" - something between the Tinker_Toy S3L and the "more than we need" S6L. I hope they do it soon or we'll buy have to move away from Avid.
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Wondering if anyone has heard of what they might be bringing out to replace the SC-48? Should be about that time?
I'm not holding my breath. We are doing a console purchase in the next few months, in the "sc48 price range" I've narrowed the list down to the Digico SD9, and the Allen and Heath C3500/CDM48 system. Bump up your price a bit and more options become available.
I've got the D-Live in my theatre right now for a demo, we start tech in a couple hours :)
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I've got the D-Live in my theatre right now for a demo, we start tech in a couple hours :)
The D-live is a fantastic kit. Now with a lot of feature requests implemented in v1.4 and 1.5
I have only worked on it a couple of times, and when it was with earlier firmware releases. Joy none the less.
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The D-live is a fantastic kit. Now with a lot of feature requests implemented in v1.4 and 1.5
I have only worked on it a couple of times, and when it was with earlier firmware releases. Joy none the less.
First night of tech went well. If I had to find a complaint, I would say that this thing is almost too flexible, but I'm already falling into a workflow that works for me.
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First night of tech went well. If I had to find a complaint, I would say that this thing is almost too flexible, but I'm already falling into a workflow that works for me.
Does it have the latest firmware? I understand there are some improvements with the scene management that is supposed to make it more theater friendly.
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Does it have the latest firmware? I understand there are some improvements with the scene management that is supposed to make it more theater friendly.
The new firmware for the d-live does indeed make the scene management pretty amazing. Very theatre friendly and also very festival friendly as you can load a single scene from another show file rather than the entire show file.
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The new firmware for the d-live does indeed make the scene management pretty amazing. Very theatre friendly and also very festival friendly as you can load a single scene from another show file rather than the entire show file.
+1 ... the new scene management is excellent.
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CL5 with Multirack :D
Agreed, but the price..., even a CL3 with RIO32 is higher $ (and why is there not a RIO48?)...it seems Yamaha has a hole where the M7CL-48 once was lived. The QL5 is lower price than a M7/48 was, and has nice small footprint, but with 32 inputs on board requires a stage box to get to 48.
I wonder if a "QL5 Tour/48" with 48 inputs would help people in the mid market/but acceptable touring console.
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I'm not holding my breath. We are doing a console purchase in the next few months, in the "sc48 price range" I've narrowed the list down to the Digico SD9, and the Allen and Heath C3500/CDM48 system. Bump up your price a bit and more options become available.
I've got the D-Live in my theatre right now for a demo, we start tech in a couple hours :)
I went with the c3500/48. I'm very happy and wait with baited breath for every new upgrade. They say they have barely touched the processing power.
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I went with the c3500/48. I'm very happy and wait with baited breath for every new upgrade. They say they have barely touched the processing power.
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That's the package I have in the theatre, I am having a great time with it, tonight's show involves 11 monitor mixes, so I get to put it through it's paces on the other side of the split.
I did update the firmware, but not until after my last show was done, just didn't have the balls to do an update while working on a show. The new scene manager does look like an improvement.
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I did update the firmware, but not until after my last show was done, just didn't have the balls to do an update while working on a show.
Never, ever, ever, update the software in the middle of tech or a show. Always wait until you are dark or at the shop.
*Unless there is a catastrophic failure of some kind and it's a last ditch effort to get the console up and running on site.
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Never, ever, ever, update the software in the middle of tech or a show. Always wait until you are dark or at the shop.
*Unless there is a catastrophic failure of some kind and it's a last ditch effort to get the console up and running on site.
I accidentally updated the software on a switcher on a fly date. I didn't think it was possible for my asshole to pucker that much in the three minutes it took. I did not have the right combination of converters to run without the switcher.
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I accidentally updated the software on a switcher on a fly date. I didn't think it was possible for my asshole to pucker that much in the three minutes it took. I did not have the right combination of converters to run without the switcher.
Assholes can continue to pucker after the show also...
So with the Vi, if you dont have a mouse, and this pops up. Puckering continues.
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The QL5 is lower price than a M7/48 was, and has nice small footprint, but with 32 inputs on board requires a stage box to get to 48.
Often overlooked are the 2x MY slots which can expand the local inputs..2xMY8AD can give you 16 more inputs for wireless. None of the cards have mic pres tho so you are correct an additional stage box will be needed to increase the mic count.
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Assholes can continue to pucker after the show also...
So with the Vi, if you dont have a mouse, and this pops up. Puckering continues.
Curiosity, can't you use tab and other Windows shortcuts even without the mouse? Windows embedded is a scary platform for a mixer IMHO.
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Curiosity, can't you use tab and other Windows shortcuts even without the mouse? Windows embedded is a scary platform for a mixer IMHO.
I dont know Scott. I have never needed a mouse OR a keyboard with a Vi console, and when this error popped up (corrupt USB drive inserted, post show, a different story) i tried touch, dint work, and the system tech said only possible with mouse. fortunately an SC48 was also at FOH.
Irritatingly, this locks up the console interface, and nothing can be accessed till its removed.
Its on my list to discuss with Soundcraft support, good on this thread, cause it slipped my mind.
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Windows embedded is extremely customizable, I wouldn't worry about anything happening that isn't a serious software failure regardless of os
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Curiosity, can't you use tab and other Windows shortcuts even without the mouse? Windows embedded is a scary platform for a mixer IMHO.
I have had console failures with all 3 major console OSs - Windows Embeded, Linux, Yamaha but none where the OS itself was the issue.
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Assholes can continue to pucker after the show also...
So with the Vi, if you dont have a mouse, and this pops up. Puckering continues.
IP conflict on VI series will also present a pop up. Lucky for me I always have a wireless mouse in my gig bag. I took care of my first warning just seconds. After that I got some uber cheap mice for each of my Vi consoles. Just in case.