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Title: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Scott Holtzman on July 08, 2021, 01:41:56 AM
8 or so years ago I wandered into the LAB Lounge after a very disheartening show, when I was still 1 guy and 1 rig, and the wonderful people here encouraged me from day one, freely shared their experience, knowledge, humor and hope and slowly we started growing, and growing and growing.  COVID pause found us moving into a 10,000 sq ft. warehouse with 1200 sq. feet of office space. a towmotor, docks, our own box truck with a lift and 2 full time employees.  Like everyone we worried what things would be like after the pandemic, insanity is not what I envisioned.  We and the companies we were with are all booked beyond capacity, we are overworked to the bone.  Will it sustain?  I don't think so, but that doesn't matter we have an opportunity to prove we can execute at a higher level.  So when the phone rang and I was asked if we could provide full production including backline for a private 4 day party with a wedding, on an island in Lake Erie for the Velcro Pygmies, Bret Michaels, Joan Jett and Tone Loc I said I think we can.  Two weeks to meet these riders, tech our gear and get the right crew for the gig.  It was a great 4 days and I thought we met expectations.  The was the first time I was completely in charge of a show with acts of this level. 


When I got home and watched this video I can't even describe the feeling.  When someone, unsolicited takes an hour of their time to post a video and pay tribute to my team I was humbled and deeply proud of everyone.  You can watch the whole thing or you can start at 47:50 where he talks about the crew and my company. 


Thank you from Cam (https://fb.watch/v/23oZ1GpEg/)

I got to work with Bob Poole (Bret's audio engineer) and Joan's engineer Billy Crater.  Everyone was a great hang and despite the insane hours a good time was had by all. 

Here is a video of the rig in the venue, a bar in Put-in-Bay that was closed one one of the busiest nights of the season for this amazing get together.  The groom was so nice he opened the doors with sufficient security and let in the public for the Bret Michael's show.  FOH is not shown we had a Hog 3 IPC, a Behringer Wing and an M32 full size.  Bob made jokes about the Wing but whipped together a killer mix.  We had already roughed a scene in based on the input list provided, that was well received.  Billy already had a scene for the M32.  Lighting was Robe Point's Mac Aura's, generic 200W par's, blinders.  LED Atomics and Chauvet Freedom Hex bars.  The support act, the Velcro Pygmies brought the Wing with them and I can't say enough good, they truly set the bar for theme/tribute acts, consummate professionals with a great show. 

Walk through of setup (https://fb.watch/v/1dZpdnpqr/)


Here is a phone video from a guest of Joan Jett and the Blackhearts.  (https://fb.watch/v/TnxruNFL/)


Thanks to everyone in the Lab Lounge for unswerving support, good humor and great advice.  I can never possibly give back what you have given me, but I won't stop trying !





Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Steve-White on July 08, 2021, 01:56:19 AM
Way to go Scott!!!
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Ivan Beaver on July 08, 2021, 08:28:10 AM
You never know what may happen.

I have had some amazing experiences over the many years in this business.

Sometimes they come out of nowhere and totally unexpected.

Or what you think is not going to be something, ends up being great.

Just keep doing what you love.

It is those moments that make it all worthwhile
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 08, 2021, 12:37:47 PM
8 or so years ago I wandered into the LAB Lounge after a very disheartening show, when I was still 1 guy and 1 rig, and the wonderful people here encouraged me from day one, freely shared their experience, knowledge, humor and hope and slowly we started growing, and growing and growing.  COVID pause found us moving into a 10,000 sq ft. warehouse with 1200 sq. feet of office space. a towmotor, docks, our own box truck with a lift and 2 full time employees.  Like everyone we worried what things would be like after the pandemic, insanity is not what I envisioned.  We and the companies we were with are all booked beyond capacity, we are overworked to the bone.  Will it sustain?  I don't think so, but that doesn't matter we have an opportunity to prove we can execute at a higher level.  So when the phone rang and I was asked if we could provide full production including backline for a private 4 day party with a wedding, on an island in Lake Erie for the Velcro Pygmies, Bret Michaels, Joan Jett and Tone Loc I said I think we can.  Two weeks to meet these riders, tech our gear and get the right crew for the gig.  It was a great 4 days and I thought we met expectations.  The was the first time I was completely in charge of a show with acts of this level. 


When I got home and watched this video I can't even describe the feeling.  When someone, unsolicited takes an hour of their time to post a video and pay tribute to my team I was humbled and deeply proud of everyone.  You can watch the whole thing or you can start at 47:50 where he talks about the crew and my company. 


Thank you from Cam (https://fb.watch/v/23oZ1GpEg/)

I got to work with Bob Poole (Bret's audio engineer) and Joan's engineer Billy Crater.  Everyone was a great hang and despite the insane hours a good time was had by all. 

Here is a video of the rig in the venue, a bar in Put-in-Bay that was closed one one of the busiest nights of the season for this amazing get together.  The groom was so nice he opened the doors with sufficient security and let in the public for the Bret Michael's show.  FOH is not shown we had a Hog 3 IPC, a Behringer Wing and an M32 full size.  Bob made jokes about the Wing but whipped together a killer mix.  We had already roughed a scene in based on the input list provided, that was well received.  Billy already had a scene for the M32.  Lighting was Robe Point's Mac Aura's, generic 200W par's, blinders.  LED Atomics and Chauvet Freedom Hex bars.  The support act, the Velcro Pygmies brought the Wing with them and I can't say enough good, they truly set the bar for theme/tribute acts, consummate professionals with a great show. 

Walk through of setup (https://fb.watch/v/1dZpdnpqr/)


Here is a phone video from a guest of Joan Jett and the Blackhearts.  (https://fb.watch/v/TnxruNFL/)


Thanks to everyone in the Lab Lounge for unswerving support, good humor and great advice.  I can never possibly give back what you have given me, but I won't stop trying !

I am SO happy for you Scott - way to go and KEEP going!
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Frank Koenig on July 08, 2021, 05:20:06 PM
I am SO happy for you Scott - way to go and KEEP going!

Hi Scott, I echo Debbie's words and look forward to hearing more about your events. Take care. --Frank
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Tim Hite on July 09, 2021, 10:30:31 AM
Ahh that's rad, Scott. Congrats on the success.
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Mal Brown on July 11, 2021, 11:34:56 PM
Yeah man, what Tim said!
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: scottstephens on July 12, 2021, 03:20:11 PM
Scott

Congratulations Sir.  Hard work does indeed pay off.  It is always nice to be reminded why we are in this zany business.

Good Mixing.

Scott
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Dave Pluke on July 13, 2021, 05:04:28 PM
Congrats, Scott! Makes it all worthwhile, doesn't it?

We need more scoop on the drama, though  ;) .

Dave
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Nils Erickson on July 16, 2021, 02:15:30 AM
Nice one, Scott!
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Jeremy Young on July 16, 2021, 06:40:34 PM
Great work Scott!   Thanks for sharing, here's to getting many more gigs so good that these four days are long forgotten. 
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Geert Friedhof on July 16, 2021, 09:45:08 PM
I'm glad you had a good time, but...

- it seems like you didn't bring enough truss, so you had to put the lifts in the middle of the room.  It might just be me, but i would never have done it like that.
- pallets (audiowood?) on top of the subs. Really? I have used pallets UNDER the subs, for transport and to protect them from moisture or sand.
- two non-arrayed tops per side...
- Lighting all the same colour, changing rather randomly
- Were those 'high dollar moving heads' worth it? I can't tell.
- Was there a monitor mixer?

I have to say that if i had been one of the BE's, i wouldn't have been impressed. I would have said nothing, because of, you know, party etcetera so always ok.

BUT the complete setup screams amateur hour to me. Sorry.
I could have said nothing, but i really think it is important to point out all of the above. I like to be proven wrong.



Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Steve-White on July 17, 2021, 01:29:17 AM
I'm glad you had a good time, but...

- it seems like you didn't bring enough truss, so you had to put the lifts in the middle of the room.  It might just be me, but i would never have done it like that.
- pallets (audiowood?) on top of the subs. Really? I have used pallets UNDER the subs, for transport and to protect them from moisture or sand.
- two non-arrayed tops per side...
- Lighting all the same colour, changing rather randomly
- Were those 'high dollar moving heads' worth it? I can't tell.
- Was there a monitor mixer?

I have to say that if i had been one of the BE's, i wouldn't have been impressed. I would have said nothing, because of, you know, party etcetera so always ok.

BUT the complete setup screams amateur hour to me. Sorry.
I could have said nothing, but i really think it is important to point out all of the above. I like to be proven wrong.

This comes across to me as a foul sir.

That's a clean setup to put a lot in a real small room.  Most likely everyone on this site would have done things differently - from both the equipment utilized from their individual inventory to the overall approach - that's pretty much a given.

Scott poured his heart into the job and it was a very rewarding experience - the results speak for themselves - that wreaks of professional.  Flying the truss out front with fence around the stands along with trash cans was ingenious - I took a mental note of that technique as it's damned creative.

The comments and points made could have been presented differently.

"I like to be proven wrong".  I don't like it, although at times it happens and gets chalked up to learning - I much prefer to be confirmed as being right.  Here it's issued almost as a challenge.  The only thing proven here is that at times you have the innate ability to come across in a confrontational and unprofessional manner.  :)
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Tim McCulloch on July 17, 2021, 05:36:49 PM
I'm glad you had a good time, but...

- it seems like you didn't bring enough truss, so you had to put the lifts in the middle of the room.  It might just be me, but i would never have done it like that.
- pallets (audiowood?) on top of the subs. Really? I have used pallets UNDER the subs, for transport and to protect them from moisture or sand.
- two non-arrayed tops per side...
- Lighting all the same colour, changing rather randomly
- Were those 'high dollar moving heads' worth it? I can't tell.
- Was there a monitor mixer?

I have to say that if i had been one of the BE's, i wouldn't have been impressed. I would have said nothing, because of, you know, party etcetera so always ok.

BUT the complete setup screams amateur hour to me. Sorry.
I could have said nothing, but i really think it is important to point out all of the above. I like to be proven wrong.

Damn, Geert, did you wake up on the wrong side of humanity today?
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Steve-White on July 17, 2021, 05:53:48 PM
Damn, Geert, did you wake up on the wrong side of humanity today?

Particularly within the realm of the job that was bid and where it fits in the grand scheme of this business.  Regional guys, (like many of us) go out on job after job, walk in and play the hand we're dealt - which Scott did very well.
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Doug Fowler on July 17, 2021, 06:34:33 PM

BUT the complete setup screams amateur hour to me. Sorry.
I could have said nothing, but i really think it is important to point out all of the above. I like to be proven wrong.

"Important"?? 

Your post screams "amateur hour".   



Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Scott Holtzman on July 18, 2021, 04:47:09 AM
I'm glad you had a good time, but...

- it seems like you didn't bring enough truss, so you had to put the lifts in the middle of the room.  It might just be me, but i would never have done it like that.
- pallets (audiowood?) on top of the subs. Really? I have used pallets UNDER the subs, for transport and to protect them from moisture or sand.
- two non-arrayed tops per side...
- Lighting all the same colour, changing rather randomly
- Were those 'high dollar moving heads' worth it? I can't tell.
- Was there a monitor mixer?

I have to say that if i had been one of the BE's, i wouldn't have been impressed. I would have said nothing, because of, you know, party etcetera so always ok.

BUT the complete setup screams amateur hour to me. Sorry.
I could have said nothing, but i really think it is important to point out all of the above. I like to be proven wrong.




Sure, I appreciate all feedback.  I can respond.   First a little context, this was a tiny club, on an island in the middle of Lake Erie and this was a pseudo private gig for a wedding.  The groom hired Bret, Joan, Tone Loc and the Pygmies out of his own pocket to have an incredible party for his friends.  We worked very hard with the artists folks to meet their rider within the budget constraints we were given.  A huge chunk went to backline and the lighting. 


We are a small provider and as I mentioned, 8 years ago I had two SOS rigs. 


At first they wanted us to bring line arrays and ground stack 4 side.  If we had done that we would have brought JBL STX 828's or Meyer 650R2's for the bottom.  The Muse 210's ground stacked would have been beyond awul in that small room.  Sure we could have hacked away at the EQ and tamed them but we had used the HK rig in that room before and it was always well received.  In the end, everyone signed off on the HK's.  See more detail below.


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- it seems like you didn't bring enough truss, so you had to put the lifts in the middle of the room.  It might just be me, but i would never have done it like that.
We had more truss.  If we pushed out we would have blocked the fire alleys and the path to the rest rooms.  The building is an old quonset hut.  No way to fly the truss.  What would you have done?
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- pallets (audiowood?) on top of the subs. Really? I have used pallets UNDER the subs, for transport and to protect them from moisture or sand.
I am responsible for everything so yes, it was ugly, it got the tops up to where they needed to be.  Originally we started with the subs that go with the 12 box  HK rig.  They were higher.  After the first night the Pygmies BE and Bret's folks thought we needed more low end.  We had the RCF's that belonged to the Pygmies and they offered them up.  I wanted to put them up in front and work out the delays to integrate the horn loaded HK subs with the RCF's.  That was nixed as too complicated for only a few DB of gain and the potential for not being able to get the delays right to avoid pattern issues.  The RCF stack was lower and the pallet was the accepted solution to get the mains back up high enough. 
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- two non-arrayed tops per side...
You are simply wrong with this quote.  Take a look at the HK projector system file:///C:/Users/skyki/Downloads/Projector_BDA_1.pdf 30 degree top boxes and splayed to spec.  It's an older rig however everyone that has run on the rig is not only surprised by the efficiency and SPL but how little work it takes to make it sound great. 
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- Lighting all the same colour, changing rather randomly
I don't know what to tell you I brought in Kevin Borrowman as our L1, he has worked with tons of folks you have heard of, is one of the top LD's in the region, highly sought after and never without work.  I hired him and his Hog IPA and wing.  Both Bret and Joan's LD's enjoyed working with him and I thought the lights looked great.  All of the artists teams commented on how well the programming was put together and how prepared we were.  I don't recall which audience clip I attached but if it was either Bret or Joan, it was their LD's show.  As far as the client, the guests etc. the lighting was very well received. 
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- Were those 'high dollar moving heads' worth it? I can't tell.
Not sure how to respond to this.  They were presented and accepted to the client.  The original ask was for Vipers, that would have been a bit much.
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- Was there a monitor mixer?
That is an interesting question.  Originally both Bret and Joan's teams were going to use the Pygmies monitor rig, a fly rack with a Midas 1U control unit and DL32 stage box with iPad control.  I was shocked.  We brought the amps and EV QRX monitors which also were accepted as rider compliant.  When the bands arrived both of their ME's were not pleased with using the support acts monitor mixer.  We had brought an M32R with another DL32 as a backup mixer.  That was pressed into monitor duty and both ME's while not pleased with the 16 fader mixer they got through the gig and no complaints from the artist during sound check.  In fact Joan said she loves the vibe of small clubs and the stage sounded great. 


I spent a bit of time with Bob Poole and coming into this situation I have no doubt he expected a shit show.  Instead he found a competent crew, a great work environment and tireless commitment to provide a memorable experience to the client.  We were prepared, everything worked and all around we exceeded expectations. 


Doug, Tim and Steve-White, I didn't see your comments until after I put together this response, after another 14 hour day, not complaining at all I am enjoying every minute of it and your comments were incredibly kind and very meaningful coming from all of you.  Thanks!




Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Scott Holtzman on July 18, 2021, 05:03:10 AM


Doug, Tim and Steve-White, I didn't see your comments until after I put together this response, after another 14 hour day, not complaining at all I am enjoying every minute of it and your comments were incredibly kind and very meaningful coming from all of you.  Thanks!


I wanted to make one other comment.  As Steve said this was a private event, paid for my folks that have never bought production in their lives.  We got the gig because at 2 weeks before the 4th of July I have no idea who, but someone on the event planning side finally realized that the talent was not going to show up and "like it" utilizing the house rig.  We were the only folks crazy enough to accept the challenge and I missed on labor, boy did I under estimate labor.  We were 1/2 my labor budget when we rolled the doors shut on the trucks to head for the ferry.  I am glad I was able to hire the LD and A1 I wanted for the gig, both were still idled from their usual touring work.  It was the best decision I ever made. 


Geert Steve put it best, we are a regional shop,  we are who we are and we drank from a firehouse and learned skills that will make us better in our normal market. 


Lastly Steve, thanks for the comment on the barriers.  They were outside for crown control and there were extra's.  I was very nervous about the lifts out in the audience, it was a huge trip hazard for one thing.  We asked if we could use the extra barriers and as you said it worked out very well.  Thanks for noticing.


Last weekend we had a festival with about 3000 folks with Love and Theft as the headliner.  This week it was a two carnival stages, and a couple of privates.  We are barely into the reopening and not only working but thriving with better talent.  I could not have asked for more. 
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Chris Hindle on July 18, 2021, 07:07:08 AM
Nice work Scott. Ya done good.
Every picture has a "Back Story", and that's something "we" don't usually see.
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but I'd really like to hear those words before being critical of someone elses rig.
Lord knows, I've done plenty of "interesting" setups just to get the job done, customer happy, and band settled.

It helps to have a REALLY thick skin in this business.....

Keep on Rocking, and Stay Safe.
Chris.
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Will Knight on July 18, 2021, 09:25:13 AM
Scott,

The plans, decisions and execution you & your team demonstrated to bring a "last minute" concept (or demands) by the artists to fruition, ultimately gaining their acceptance within the constraints given by the provider is a testament of key characteristics (creativity & patience) of the successful professionals in this business who pursue this avenue of interest, either for fun or profit.  Kudos for an outstanding delivery.  Every outing has it's high (many) and low (few) points and as I often tell my son and grandkids, to "fail" at something is actually your "First Attempt In Learning"....Fail often, Listen, Learn, Apply, Grow (Rinse & Repeat).
You can and should be proud of what was accomplished but more importantly, the beneficial impact (references, future bookings, reputation et al) this "small" event will have on your business.
Congrats! Fantastic Job!

Will
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Tim McCulloch on July 18, 2021, 10:40:08 AM
About LX, the "person from our shop" and Band LX persons -

As vendors we put up the lights, truss, ground package, whatever was agreed to.  If you don't like the way the assets are used it's on the BLX, not the shop or the person from the shop.

We put up a whole bunch of our lights for an act that also brought a dozen or so flown movers and some pixel sticks (on mic stands) and some other ground stuff.  All arranged in advance (VectorWorks drawing and all!).  The promoter loved the show, the BLX person was very happy, and most of us thought the assets were vastly under-utilized.  Out opinion doesn't matter, ultimately, because the folks that DO matter were pleased.

On to the next show.
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Steve-White on July 18, 2021, 11:40:36 AM
"Important"?? 

Your post screams "amateur hour".

That sums it up well Doug.  Anyone that can look at what Scott and his company did and nit pick a bunch of BS just doesn't get it.  Clearly, the dude has been around this stuff, but I guarantee you never sat "in the driver's seat" with his name on a contract.

Phone rings or email drops into inbox.  First comes the discovery of what the client wants/needs (do they even know?), then ya figure out what goes into the truck and how many hands ya need to move it.  Get to job site and as the cases are rolling out the back of the truck immediately go into 4th dimensional problem solving mode in real time as shit's moving into the building - as Scott later explained with front truss and monitor system.  Doing that with customer and 3 or 4 acts in the mix.  All the while dealing with personalities, add to that an LD.

Keeping a lid on all that requires composure under fire.  Nothing short of a well seasoned pro could pull something like this off.

Reminds of a conversation  with another project engineer at my day job.  We were talking about what we had to do day by day at work.  He said he was at a high school career fair talking to an auditorium of kids.  One asked him what an average day was for a project engineer to which he responded "I don't know, I haven't had one yet".

No matter what kind of upfront planning ya do, there's always something to deal with.

Reminds me of another day in the life and times of a sound and light contractor.  Had a shop back in the 80's, met a guy in a lighting class in college that had field experience and HOW experience.  Didn't know jack diddly about sound.  So, took him out and got him into the audio side of things.  After using him as my wing man for a year of more, a small fashion show job came in.  Saturday morning at the shop, I printed out a copy of the contract and sitting at my desk handed it to Brian and told him "Go handle this".  He looked at it and handed it back to me, wide eyed.....  "Well......ahghh.....what do I do?"  I handed it back to him and said again "go handle it".  "What do I take?"  "Brian, you know the type of job it is, you know the room it's in and you know our inventory".  "Take whatever you want, throw it into the truck and go do the show".....

One final time he handed me back the contract and one final time I pushed it back at him:  "I don't give a shit what you take or how you set it up - go get paid" "I go to the bank Monday afternoon" "bring me the money".

We never had to have that conversation again.

Putting your name on the bottom of a contract changes everything.
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Craig Hauber on July 19, 2021, 10:46:48 AM
"Important"?? 

Your post screams "amateur hour".

Yes, just like the "amateur hour" I've been stuck in for the last few weeks! 
I'm actually envious of someone having a good gig and definitely won't rain on anyone's parade.
(I was always taught that if I don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything!)

Now back to my overworked, underpaid, outdoor overheated shit-show involving kids, wireless lavs and Bose speakers. 

Keep posting good gig stories, I need all the POSITIVE input I can absorb right now!
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Chris Hindle on July 19, 2021, 12:33:12 PM

Now back to my overworked, underpaid, outdoor overheated shit-show involving kids, wireless lavs and Bose speakers. 


Holy crap.
6 things I try to avoid, all in the same sentence....
I feel the pain. Been there, done that, back when I had big steel balls.  >:(
Chris.
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Russell Ault on July 19, 2021, 04:50:42 PM
Holy crap.
6 things I try to avoid, all in the same sentence....
{...}

I count 8 7 (and I can say, with much gratitude, that I've never had to deal with more than about four or five of them at once).

(I was about to say "I count 8", but then I remembered that one of my main pre-pandemic gigs was theatrical A2, so I guess I can't really claim to be avoiding wireless lavs.) :D

-Russ
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Chris Hindle on July 21, 2021, 05:13:10 PM
I count 8 7 (and I can say, with much gratitude, that I've never had to deal with more than about four or five of them at once).

(I was about to say "I count 8", but then I remembered that one of my main pre-pandemic gigs was theatrical A2, so I guess I can't really claim to be avoiding wireless lavs.) :D

-Russ
Now back to my overworked, underpaid, outdoor overheated shit-show involving kids, wireless lavs and Bose speakers.

Ya, 6 covers it pretty good. I don't mind outdoors as long as I am well prepared.
5 at once a few times...... I got more "selective" on the gigs I took on as I aged....
Chris.
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Russell Ault on July 22, 2021, 01:56:05 AM
Now back to my overworked, underpaid, outdoor overheated shit-show involving kids, wireless lavs and Bose speakers.

Ya, 6 covers it pretty good. I don't mind outdoors as long as I am well prepared.
5 at once a few times...... I got more "selective" on the gigs I took on as I aged....
Chris.

I counted "overheated" and "shit-show" as two separate things. They do often go together, but I've definitely lived through some complete disasters in nicely air conditioned spaces (and, every once in a while, a decent show will happen despite everyone being too hot).

I also definitely counted outside. Not that I can't do it, not that I won't do it, but I'm one of those people who got into this industry because I enjoy spending my days in dark, windowless, air conditioned rooms. :D

-Russ
Title: Re: Don't ever give up - I just finished the most amazing 4 days of my career
Post by: Scott Holtzman on July 22, 2021, 02:04:20 AM
I counted "overheated" and "shit-show" as two separate things. They do often go together, but I've definitely lived through some complete disasters in nicely air conditioned spaces (and, every once in a while, a decent show will happen despite everyone being too hot).

I also definitely counted outside. Not that I can't do it, not that I won't do it, but I'm one of those people who got into this industry because I enjoy spending my days in dark, windowless, air conditioned rooms. :D

-Russ


Laughing, it doesn't bother me either, we get 3 days of sunlight in Cleveland a year. 


I have done a few cheer and dance gigs, pay to play events that the dance "schools" charge the parents exorbitant sums of money to watch there kids on a huge dance stage. 


The soccer moms queue up and either throw their phones or a CD at you.  We would not touch the phones, that would piss people off but it was agreed by the extorter, I mean promoter.  So the show would go on while the phone would ring and various alerts would go off.  It was pure hell.


I had one crew member up on the judges platform as they were unable to turn the wireless mic on my themselves.  I looked over and he keep holding up signs with a number on them.  I texted him and said what are you doing?  He said rating the soccer moms.  I asked him to stop so we didn't get fired but it was damn funny.