Brad Weber wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 03:36 |
If it is a new install in a new building, then it might be worth considering how a digital console and/or digital snake could affect the overall cost. You may be able to offset greater equipment costs with potential savings in conduit, cabling, etc. Aspects such as the general system form are difficult to address without additional information on the physical space and functional requirements. If it is a new building and new system, you are into the scale where getting professionals in to address the acoustics and AVL would likely be beneficial, as would getting them involved while the space is being designed. |
Darin Brunet wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 04:44 |
Chris, is there anyone in your area who can do sound plots from your architectural drawings (EASE, SMAART)? What about the rest of the system... speakers, amps, cabling, mics??? |
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What we are really needing is someone who REALLY knows their stuff, come and make a convincing presentation and proceed from there. |
Dick Rees wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:12 |
All other considerations aside, I would consider very carefully just how many outputs you need and for what purposes. If it's one or two mixes going out to different locations you can get along well with running through a line distro to control your various zones. But if you need more than one or two specific mixes you'll want to have enought auxes or matrixes to put out what you need. Either analog or digital can do this for you. Digital probably is a bit more flexible with being able to assign outputs for different purposes, but an analog desk with 10/12 auxes and four or more matrixes will do just fine. So this is the feature set which I would consider before anything else. At this level almost any product with the feature set is going to be a fully functional, professional level desk. |
Chris Harwood wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 01:44 |
in the $5k - $7.5 range? Used could be OK too. And/or would used potentially be preferred in that price range? or...move up to $10K? Contemporary P & W... thinking around 40 channels or so. Running avioms on the platform. Medium sized church (500 seats).. Probably stereo w/ center channel? ... overall TOTAL system budget...$75K.. maybe? Is my head on my shoulders with this thinking? |
Chris Harwood wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 12:41 |
To repeat: Installation and acoustical treatment will be AFTER the fact. I can be almost positive about that unless I can find a consultant that will convince the Pastors that they are needed, IN THE NEXT couple weeks and incorporate this install into the build. The slab is poured and the framing basically done and we are moving forward fast. Also, does $50 -75K qualify even qualify for some "pro" advice, seeing that this isn't a "high end, top of the line" install? |
Chris Harwood wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 12:41 |
Also, does $50 -75K qualify even qualify for some "pro" advice, seeing that this isn't a "high end, top of the line" install? |
Frank DeWitt wrote on Tue, 06 July 2010 01:18 |
Design build building install sound system Occupy Install acoustical treatment In my opinion, you are heading for a train wreck. |
David Sharp wrote on Tue, 06 July 2010 01:10 |
If it were me, I would pick a Mackie 32.4 & PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING/INSTALLATION over ANY digital console and a substandard install/design (provided you can get by with 32 inputs). You can upgrade the console down the road. You only get one shot at a NEW install. The last thing you want to do is spend $75k and receive complaints as to how miserable it sounds. That is the quickest way to close up the check book for future purchases. My priorities would be: 1. A professional consultant 2. Speakers/Amps/System Controller & professional rigging 3. Quality cables/connectors 4. Hopefully a digital mixer (budget allowing). You can always use your current board as a submixer to a 24 channel digital mixer If you dont have the money left in the budget for a larger console. |
David Sharp wrote on Mon, 05 July 2010 20:10 |
What console do they currently use? If it were me, I would pick a Mackie 32.4 & PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING/INSTALLATION over ANY digital console and a substandard install/design (provided you can get by with 32 inputs)... My priorities would be: 1. A professional consultant 2. Speakers/Amps/System Controller & professional rigging 3. Quality cables/connectors 4. Hopefully a digital mixer (budget allowing). You can always use your current board as a submixer to a 24 channel digital mixer If you dont have the money left in the budget for a larger console. |