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Something way deep down inside wants me to buy this rig and then through judicious use of DSP and Quint(?)-amping make it sound really good for a backyard party set of speakers...
http://collegestation.craigslist.org/msg/4913939920.html
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Something way deep down inside wants me to buy this rig and then through judicious use of DSP and Quint(?)-amping make it sound really good for a backyard party set of speakers...
http://collegestation.craigslist.org/msg/4913939920.html
Ha! My first "real" PA, along with a mess of Carver PM Series amps. Occasionally, when I played bass, I used take the 415SUBS and a pair of PM1200s and stack them like you would a Marshall stack, just to freak out the guitar players, who always seemed to get that "no fair!" look you would see on a kids face when given a small whatever than his brother. As much as I'm trying to off-load stuff these days, I'd still have a hard time not buying these despite all cons I can think of for not buying them.
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....And the Horn 'O Peavey abounds with new and wondrous speakers....
This is at a Guitar Center in the used section. Pretty close to me too, but unfortunately they only have one cabinet!
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Something way deep down inside wants me to buy this rig
Resist.
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Something way deep down inside wants me to buy this rig and then through judicious use of DSP and Quint(?)-amping make it sound really good for a backyard party set of speakers...
http://collegestation.craigslist.org/msg/4913939920.html
We have a yearly Bluegrass festival here that uses 2 of those a side. Guy said they give him an authentic Bluegrass sound. If that sound is all mids, they do a great job.
You might have the same nostalgia for those speakers that I have for old Martins.
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We have a yearly Bluegrass festival here that uses 2 of those a side. Guy said they give him an authentic Bluegrass sound. If that sound is all mids, they do a great job.
You might have the same nostalgia for those speakers that I have for old Martins.
Probably. I'm "only" 40. I remember going to music stores and drooling over the Community cabs like these Peavey's. Big squares. Lotsa drivers....
Later on in my musical career I worked at a university whose theatre comlex was built in the early 70's. There I learned to appreciate all that is green and horn-loaded! We had a LCR system of Altec A2's which are the biggest VOTT cabs they had. Soooo Efficient! We had some A7's as "portable" PA too. Although it didn't get used that much I would still set it up in the basement and listen to music while I maintained gear..... Love that stuff.
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Probably. I'm "only" 40. I remember going to music stores and drooling over the Community cabs like these Peavey's. Big squares. Lotsa drivers....
Later on in my musical career I worked at a university whose theatre comlex was built in the early 70's. There I learned to appreciate all that is green and horn-loaded! We had a LCR system of Altec A2's which are the biggest VOTT cabs they had. Soooo Efficient! We had some A7's as "portable" PA too. Although it didn't get used that much I would still set it up in the basement and listen to music while I maintained gear..... Love that stuff.
I like looking at pics of A7's with "naked" multicellular horns sitting on top. Speaker porn lol.
I've always wondered what those "voice of the theater" systems would sound like with modern DSP, amps, mics, boards setup by someone with a Smaart type app that knew what they were doing. I bet it would give some modern systems a run. But more work to move.
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12x scorpion 15
4x scorpion 10
4x 22 HF
2x tweeter, forget the number
should be worth $500 to scrap out at swap meets if all working.
The scorpion 10 attached to 18 watts of tube power can do some interesting things for guitar.
unless you have an absolute need for something shits n giggles backyard drunken shenanigans PA keep the cash in your pocket.
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A friend has a pair of SP-2s and a pair of FH-1s in his shed. I have a CS800 and a CS1000.
This is what I used in the mid 80s. I would love to put it all together for some sort of retro event.
Steve.
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A friend has a pair of SP-2s and a pair of FH-1s in his shed. I have a CS800 and a CS1000.
This is what I used in the mid 80s. I would love to put it all together for some sort of retro event.
Steve.
I would like to take these HIGHLY modified cabinets (that I use for my computer speakers) to a gig (especially with older musicians who "remember" them, and blow them away the sound.
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There is a 60s/70s rock band in my town who have been going since the early 70s. They regularly gig with a pair of WEM 4x12" column speakers which must also date from the 70s. They have had their drivers replaced with black widows though.
Like these: http://www.watkinsguitars.co.uk/wemcolumn.jpg
Steve.
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I would like to take these HIGHLY modified cabinets (that I use for my computer speakers) to a gig (especially with older musicians who "remember" them, and blow them away the sound.
You have better memories of that Peavey board than I do lol. That was my first board for my first road band. 1976. I really don't miss it.
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I see this one in churches occasionally; usually in white.
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You have better memories of that Peavey board than I do
I didn't notice that the first time I looked at the picture. What a great idea.
Steve.
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I didn't notice that the first time I looked at the picture. What a great idea.
Steve.
It is a great idea. A desk within a desk.
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I didn't notice that the first time I looked at the picture. What a great idea.
Steve.
Behind me I have my "wall of amps" (over 100 from the70s/80s).
I also have the full collection of Shure Vocal Master products. Both heads-full and half columns-external slave amp and the VERY RARE tweeter banks.
I had the console and could not think of how to display it.
When I moved to a new office I got the idea-put some thick glass on top and made a stand for it.
My legs fit under it nicely and it is really cool to show people.
On another wall I have lots of old catalogs/brochures etc of PA gear.
In the shop restroom there are photos of the classic PA systems-and other PA "stuff".
It is my little "museum" of gear.
It brings back memories to many people.
The "pride" of my collection is the Crest 8001. Serial number 001. The first one made :) And it still worked the last time I turned it on.
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Behind me I have my "wall of amps" (over 100 from the70s/80s).
I also have the full collection of Shure Vocal Master products. Both heads-full and half columns-external slave amp and the VERY RARE tweeter banks.
I had the console and could not think of how to display it.
When I moved to a new office I got the idea-put some thick glass on top and made a stand for it.
My legs fit under it nicely and it is really cool to show people.
On another wall I have lots of old catalogs/brochures etc of PA gear.
In the shop restroom there are photos of the classic PA systems-and other PA "stuff".
It is my little "museum" of gear.
It brings back memories to many people.
The "pride" of my collection is the Crest 8001. Serial number 001. The first one made :) And it still worked the last time I turned it on.
Memories, I'll say.
The first time i saw Ivan's wall of historic amplifiers, there was about 20 min of “oh, I remember this one” and “ gosh I never saw one of those in person”. It has grown since then!
Tom
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I think I should start saving up for a ticket to Americaland and take the guided tour of Ivan's office.
Sounds like a much better idea than visiting Disneyland!
Steve.
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If I was collecting old speakers, there are two systems I would like to get. The first is one I have used. The HH Concert System:
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bf/22/8e/bf228e336ba675a8b76ca9f04299a068.jpg)
And the other is the optimistically titled 'Festival Stack' by WEM. I have only seen pictures of this:
(http://www.watkinsguitars.co.uk/CWfestivalstack2%20%28Small%29.jpg)
Steve.
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In my day columns were the way of the world. I've run through or owned Vocal Masters, the Kustom cabinets Ivan is showing, the Peaveys shown above, WEM, Marshall, Acoustic, and more than I can remember. The mid 60's to late 70's was filled with every conceivable type of PA in one form or another, but one thing you could count on. The columns always filled the room with good sound, and yes, even the Peaveys.
Edit - Forgot the Trainor PA I once owned. It matched my YBA-3 bass amp that I was using for lead guitar.
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Something way deep down inside wants me to buy this rig and then through judicious use of DSP and Quint(?)-amping make it sound really good for a backyard party set of speakers...
http://collegestation.craigslist.org/msg/4913939920.html
It actually isn't half bad if done right.
consider it like a double-15 bass cab standing next to a 2x10+1" box. (Lose the tweeter and upgrade the 1")
As long as you have 1 per side with the 4x15 bass cab under each you can get totally acceptable audio out of it.
-You can now probably guess that I've done it a while back using a 1st generation minidrive dsp.
The 2x15" section you run in the same passband as the 4x15" "sub" box up to around 150 or so. The 10" scorpions are not a bad driver at all and can be run fairly high (2.5k-ish). The newest peavey 1" screws right in place of the stock one and you can just leave the tweeter there to plug the hole. Remove all the passive components and wire to an 8-pin speak-on and you're in business.
You might want to leave it installed somewhere as moving them gets a bit rough though!
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It actually isn't half bad if done right.
consider it like a double-15 bass cab standing next to a 2x10+1" box. (Lose the tweeter and upgrade the 1")
As long as you have 1 per side with the 4x15 bass cab under each you can get totally acceptable audio out of it.
-You can now probably guess that I've done it a while back using a 1st generation minidrive dsp.
The 2x15" section you run in the same passband as the 4x15" "sub" box up to around 150 or so. The 10" scorpions are not a bad driver at all and can be run fairly high (2.5k-ish). The newest peavey 1" screws right in place of the stock one and you can just leave the tweeter there to plug the hole. Remove all the passive components and wire to an 8-pin speak-on and you're in business.
You might want to leave it installed somewhere as moving them gets a bit rough though!
Below is a photo of my system after I got back (I should have learned the first time) into the business. My previous system was MUCH larger, and this was an "easy start" to get back into it.
The cabinets were modified Peavey 3020s (like the OP) and "mirror" versions.
The woofers were replaced with EVM15Bs, A single 10 sealed back McCauley replaced the dual 10s and a single McCauley 2" replaced the 1" and tweeter.
So only the cabinet remained the same-I even dyed the carpet from brown to black and ran it triamped
I made the dual 18's to match physically (except the subs were deeper)-but give more depth.
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And this is the same system as the previous post-except some grills added and some center cabinets added "to the mix".
This was before I "Started over again" with a different approach
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If I was collecting old speakers, there are two systems I would like to get. The first is one I have used. The HH Concert System:
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bf/22/8e/bf228e336ba675a8b76ca9f04299a068.jpg)
And the other is the optimistically titled 'Festival Stack' by WEM. I have only seen pictures of this:
(http://www.watkinsguitars.co.uk/CWfestivalstack2%20%28Small%29.jpg)
Steve.
OMG Steve…I remember HH stuff. Chris had an HH bass rig 1x15" years ago - his first rig.
I also owned a small pair of HH PA speakers - can't remember which ones….Haven't thought about them in years !!
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OMG Steve…I remember HH stuff.
They appear to be back in business (if they ever went away) with some quite nice looking equipment.
http://www.hhelectronics.com/products
Steve.
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I see this one in churches occasionally; usually in white.
It is rare to see these with the surrounds intact.
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Do you remember the model number? I owned a pair of these, and the made a 4x15" sub to go with them. Ran them off old CS-800's but for the life of me can't remember the model number.
Something way deep down inside wants me to buy this rig and then through judicious use of DSP and Quint(?)-amping make it sound really good for a backyard party set of speakers...
http://collegestation.craigslist.org/msg/4913939920.html
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All I need to do is open a window.
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Do you remember the model number? I owned a pair of these, and the made a 4x15" sub to go with them. Ran them off old CS-800's but for the life of me can't remember the model number.
CS-3020 ? 3020-HT? Something that had 3020 in it.
Chris.
Used them with the 4*15's a couple of times, when the customer couldn't cough up for the Adamson rig. At the time, the place I freelanced for carried Peavey PA gear.
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Something way deep down inside wants me to buy this rig and then through judicious use of DSP and Quint(?)-amping make it sound really good for a backyard party set of speakers...
http://collegestation.craigslist.org/msg/4913939920.html
I remember those.
OUCH!!!!
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I remember those.
OUCH!!!!
Well, at least they looked impressive, for the time.
Sound was...... ah........ummm......lackluster at best
I tried running it 4-way. Once. Wall of CS-800's. 2 hours fucking around, and back to full-range they went.
The salesman loved them. Guess he had a decent markup on them, cause it sure wasn't for the sound !
Chris.
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A friend has a pair of SP-2s and a pair of FH-1s in his shed. I have a CS800 and a CS1000.
This is what I used in the mid 80s. I would love to put it all together for some sort of retro event.
Steve.
SP2/CS800 was my first P.A. Saw a pair for sale at Sam Ash last month and thought about it...just for a second, LOL.
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Back in the late '70s the guy who did most of the arena gigs in Honolulu built a similar system comprised of 2-10s, 4-5 1/4s, a couple of slots and a couple of ring radiators. This sat on top of a W bin with a 15. All JBL drivers of the era. Amp rack was maybe 12U high with Yamaha amps instead of the Phase Linear he used with the older all horn system. The first time I heard it he had two stacks per side in the HIC arena with George Benson. It was the best sounding concert I'd heard to date, including folks who brought in their own touring systems. Warm and natural sounding. Didn't have the efficiency of horn loading but seemed to make up for it with the 5 way multi-amping. He built a couple more so he could have three stacks per side for louder rock shows. He would also load a bunch of empty bins and some horns into a tray that flew over the stage so it looked more rock and roll. But the 5 way stacks were carrying all the load to the front.
He had also built the system our Waikiki cabaret band used including the 250lb prototype concrete copies of JBL radial horns. He made the ones he used for the arena shows thinner and lighter but we left our system in the same club for 3 years so moving them wasn't as much an issue. Until the resort chain moved us to a bigger show room and we had to move them every night. :( In any event we took a week off to play on Maui once and with no arena gig booked, he told us to leave our rig in the club and he would bring something. Given that the place on Maui was paying freight (along with rooms and meals) to get a top Waikiki band for the week. That ended up being a pair of his 5 way stacks which we set up in a large ballroom. (He also tried out some wedges Ike and Tina had sent over for a show on us) These days, most folks would consider such a rig barely adequate for a large ballroom. But in 1978 it was seriously loud.
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Something way deep down inside wants me to buy this rig and then through judicious use of DSP and Quint(?)-amping make it sound really good for a backyard party set of speakers...
http://collegestation.craigslist.org/msg/4913939920.html
In case you're located in the east:
https://york.craigslist.org/msg/5837018410.html
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I owned 6 stacks of that stuff when I started out.
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