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Here's a fun idea: Gear Survey. The idea is simple - Post what you have, follow up with thoughts if you want to. The goal is participation.
I thought I'd start with power amps, since there are plenty of passive loudspeakers still in use, and they all need amplification. There's amps you can buy at Parts Express, Banjo Center, Musician's Friend, Sweetie-pie, and the like, and then there's amps you need to know a dealer in order to get -- for instance, I used to hear a lot about Camco (not as much anymore) and I don't think you can buy Powersoft at any of the above outlets, either.
The downside to this idea is that I really ought to go first. I'll betray my newb/"semi-non-pro" (bottom feeder, trunk slammer, hobbyist, local boob, call it what you want) status by saying I have a couple Behringer NU1000DSPs and an EPQ450. Well, at least it's something (in that it's slightly more than nothing). Reliability in the iNukes was questionable early on, but they haven't broken on me yet (for the few tiny gigs I have done with my "big toy stereo" - mostly favors, a couple outdoor parties and one girl-with-guitar, plus plenty of futzing around), and the iNuke DSP interface is dynamite, dead-simple for the basic configurations you'd want to do in processing, though it's not networkable and there aren't any 'frills'. As long as these hold on, these will probably be the last things I upgrade, though for subs I'm thinking of moving to a NU3000DSP for my two Community VBS112, and probably a second one for my RH TRX81/9 mains. (It's not called the Tiny PA for nothing.) Crest Pro-Lite is also on the menu...
Any takers?
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I thought I'd start with power amps, since there are plenty of passive loudspeakers still in use, and they all need amplification.
QSC RMX for subs, QSC HPR tops. 10 years and counting have never missed a beat.
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Here's a fun idea: Gear Survey. The idea is simple - Post what you have, follow up with thoughts if you want to. The goal is participation.
I thought I'd start with power amps, since there are plenty of passive loudspeakers still in use, and they all need amplification. There's amps you can buy at Parts Express, Banjo Center, Musician's Friend, Sweetie-pie, and the like, and then there's amps you need to know a dealer in order to get -- for instance, I used to hear a lot about Camco (not as much anymore) and I don't think you can buy Powersoft at any of the above outlets, either.
The downside to this idea is that I really ought to go first. I'll betray my newb/"semi-non-pro" (bottom feeder, trunk slammer, hobbyist, local boob, call it what you want) status by saying I have a couple Behringer NU1000DSPs and an EPQ450. Well, at least it's something (in that it's slightly more than nothing). Reliability in the iNukes was questionable early on, but they haven't broken on me yet (for the few tiny gigs I have done with my "big toy stereo" - mostly favors, a couple outdoor parties and one girl-with-guitar, plus plenty of futzing around), and the iNuke DSP interface is dynamite, dead-simple for the basic configurations you'd want to do in processing, though it's not networkable and there aren't any 'frills'. As long as these hold on, these will probably be the last things I upgrade, though for subs I'm thinking of moving to a NU3000DSP for my two Community VBS112, and probably a second one for my RH TRX81/9 mains. (It's not called the Tiny PA for nothing.) Crest Pro-Lite is also on the menu...
Any takers?
The Peavey IPR2/Crest Pro-Lite work well. I use them in 8 ohm mode driving 1 driver per channel of our STX-828S subs. I have 6 of them.
We still have 8 Behringer EP-4000 in mono-bridge each powering a B&C loaded 18" sub.
We have 12 Yamaha P3500S running bridge one per Meyer 650R2 dual 18 subs.
Crown Xti4002s on monitors
QSC - (4) PL340, (2) PL380 (4) PL236 running various subs and tops
The rest of our inventory is powered.
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Any takers?
Turbosound-branded, by MC2 (T15, T25, T45 for FOH) and Linea Research (Rack DP50 for primary monitor rack). Plus, a few Crest Pro-Lites in a secondary monitor rack.
Dave
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Danley LAB subs: Peavey cs4080HZ
BFM DR300 array cabinets: QSC PL340 on mids, QSC cx404 on compression drivers
BFM Omni array cabinets: QSC cx404 on mids and compression drivers
12” wedges: QSC cx404 on mids and compression drivers
15” drummer sub: QSC PL340
All cabinets loaded with Eminence drivers.
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Here's a fun idea: Gear Survey. The idea is simple - Post what you have, follow up with thoughts if you want to. The goal is participation.
I thought I'd start with power amps, since there are plenty of passive loudspeakers still in use, and they all need amplification. There's amps you can buy at Parts Express, Banjo Center, Musician's Friend, Sweetie-pie, and the like, and then there's amps you need to know a dealer in order to get -- for instance, I used to hear a lot about Camco (not as much anymore) and I don't think you can buy Powersoft at any of the above outlets, either.
The downside to this idea is that I really ought to go first. I'll betray my newb/"semi-non-pro" (bottom feeder, trunk slammer, hobbyist, local boob, call it what you want) status by saying I have a couple Behringer NU1000DSPs and an EPQ450. Well, at least it's something (in that it's slightly more than nothing). Reliability in the iNukes was questionable early on, but they haven't broken on me yet (for the few tiny gigs I have done with my "big toy stereo" - mostly favors, a couple outdoor parties and one girl-with-guitar, plus plenty of futzing around), and the iNuke DSP interface is dynamite, dead-simple for the basic configurations you'd want to do in processing, though it's not networkable and there aren't any 'frills'. As long as these hold on, these will probably be the last things I upgrade, though for subs I'm thinking of moving to a NU3000DSP for my two Community VBS112, and probably a second one for my RH TRX81/9 mains. (It's not called the Tiny PA for nothing.) Crest Pro-Lite is also on the menu...
Any takers?
QSC PL380's on subs
QSC PL 340 on tops
QSC PLX3602 on monitors
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QSC Series 3 from the 1980's.
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All QSC.
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Everything's active except the subs. Those have a Crest Pro9200. I carry a QSC PLX3204 and a BSS Minidrive DSP in a rack as a backup.
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Crown I-Tech HD 12k, Crown XTI 6002, and we still have some Crown CE4000s running around.
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Lots of QSC PL2's, PLX3602's and still lugging around some Crown MA3600's for subs. I also have a Crown XLS2502 in a rack bag for a back up.
My oddball leftover amps include two Carver PM600's (one is used for my computer speakers) a Carver PM420 , two EV/Dynacord 7300's and a 7100, two Crown D75's, a QSC 1100, Hafler DH200 (long since retired to my home stereo).
These oddball leftover amps with exception of the Hafler and the PM600 on my computer still earn some money a time or two a year.
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for instance, I used to hear a lot about Camco (not as much anymore)
Any takers?
Camco was purchased by LAcoustics
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We've got:
36 Lab Fp+ 7000
10 Linea Research 44M10
5 Powersoft K3 DSP
2 Powersoft M50Q DSP
a few dozen older QSC amps
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2x Powersoft X4
4x Powersoft M50Q
6x Crown iT8k
4x Crown Xti6k
4x Crown Xti4k
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A pair of iTech 6k
A pair of Yorkville A4.4
A pair of QSC PLD 4.5
An odd Microtech or two, and a couple of 1u baby Crest 1001 somewhere in a rack...
Best regards,
John
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Bunch if Crown iTechs. Mainly just running JBL SRX subs.
Have a few Crown K2s and a CE4000 in the basement somewhere too.
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Crown ITech 6000 on subs
Crown xti4000 on tops
Crown xti2000 x 2 on monitors - 3 of us on ears with the regular band, so not always used. They all sit in a single rack. No failures whatsoever for the 10 years or so I’ve had this bunch, and all were purchased used. The xti’s are sensitive to low voltage which I’ve encountered once (as in measuring 100v at the outlet) but the fault of the venue for poor provisions, not the fault of the equipment, and we still limped thru the gig with brownouts where we had to cut the volume and the distortion went up.
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Mains stereo racks plus spare
3x EV P2000 ch1 sub and ch2 mid bass
3x EV P1200 ch1 mids, ch2 high’s
Currently replacing with QSC PLX 2 3102 and plx 1602
CA/9’s and 1602’s as spares
For passive monitors
2 x QSC Plx2 1804
2 x plx 1602
1 x QSC cx-502 (install ver of plx 1602)
1 x Carvin dcm 2004L
Plus lots of QSC K and KW series stuff
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My Camco Vortex 6 amps have been awesome for years! Run up to four 2x18" subs per amp depending on the application.
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All Crown. Subs----MA9000i
Tops-----xti 4k
Mons----xti 4k
also still have a MA2400 running single 18's and a MA1200 running 15's + horn ... 1989 vintage; still kicking butt
Lots of JBL powered stuff
Scott
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2 x Lab Hruppen FP 3400 for
subs
2 x FP 3400 for mids
2 x Mackie M1400 for highs
2 x INUKE NU 4-6000 for monitors
2 x Crown CDi 1000 for small speaker on sticks application
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This probably does not qualify for your actual post unless you are very generous in the definition of "using"
I have a pair of PV-4C amps (but no passive PA speakers)
1 of the amps (which blows the channel B circuit breaker on power up) is used about 1 time every 3 years when I play electric guitar with my rig. My electric guitar rig is a line6 POD XT and a 15" Eminence Patriot speaker in a open back cabinet, powered by the PV-4C with the 1 operating channel.
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I thought I'd add that most of our new utility loudspeaker purchases (i.e., everything except our vertical arrays) are trending to "power inside" designs as we replace older, heavier inventory.
Camco? We auditioned a Nexo GEO S rig powered by Camco amps and in the 3 weeks we had them, experienced no problems. That rig sounded really, really good but was too small for most of what we do. One of the shows we did with it was Ladysmith Black Mambazo in a small-ish university concert hall. The BE had me delay the PA a few ms. and it was like having the singers right in front of you, 70 feet back. Almost no system EQ was used by the BE.
I bring this up because in the grand scheme of things power amplifiers should be "wire with gain." Nothing more, nothing less. As JR often points out, what happens at the extremes of operation tend to determine our impressions. Ladysmith would not tax the power amps at any SPL the audience or artist would tolerate but it was pretty obvious that the controller and amps were not coloring the sound in a noticeable way when operated within their linear range.
Some amps *are* better than others when it comes to this relatively simple task, and old amps *are* more likely to develop "character" as the caps dry out and other heat/age related things take their toll. Don't discount that some users like the sound of distortion, too.
Oh, I just remembered we have ONE Behringer Inuke in a Gator case that gets used for SoS... /confessions
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All Qsc with the exception of one Peavey Ipr2 7500 on subs.
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(2) Crown MA5000i
(4) Crown XLS2500
(2) Crown XLS1500
(2) Crown XLS1000
(2) Crown XLI3500
(1) Crown XLI800
(2) QSC PLX 3602
(2) QSC GXD8
(2) QSC GX7
(2) Behringer EP4000
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mid/high cabinets - active RCF
Subs - MacroTech 9000i
Monitors - QSC PLD
QSC -PLX3602/2502 amps sitting around for backups or for the occasional one-off or rental.
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Behringer I nuke 4-6000 on monitors,
2 Crown xls 1500
2 Crown xls 2500
Backups or smaller venues
2 Carvin Fet 450
Carvin Fet 1000
Carvin Fet 400
Crown macrotech 410
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I have 1 system that isn't self powered.... Yorkville speakers.
(2) Yamaha P7000s powering dual 18subs, 1 driver per channel at 4ohms.
(1) Yamaha P5000s powering dual 15 low/mid at 4ohms/ch
(1) Yamaha P3500S powering 2" comps at 8ohms/ch
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All QSC
PLX3402 mostly (1 PLX1602 for HF)
Several PLX1804 for smaller gigs
Used to have PL6.0 for subs - now all powered subs
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I have the following
A Rig - EV XLC-127
4 Crest CA-6
8 Crest CA-9
4 Crest CA-12
B Rig - JBL SRX
4 QSC PL-380
Mon., SOS, Nexo PS-15
4 QSC-PLX-1602
4 QSC PLX-3402
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Mains - installed
1x Crown XTI 2000 highs
2x Crown XTI 4000 lows
1x Crown XTI 6000 subs - backup, replaced with:
2x QSC PL380 subs
Monitors
2x QSC PL340
Mobile
4x QSC PL380 in various configurations
1x QSC PL325
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2 X Crown XLS2500 powering 4 monitor mixes (2 ea. JBL PRX412's / 415's). Mains are powered.
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(2) DNA 20K4 PRo (one is spare) for mains and subs.
(1) Powersoft Ottocanali 12K4 DSP for monitors.
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QSC EX-4000 (4) on mains
QSC MX-1500 (4) on 2 x 4 mix bi-amp wedge racks
Peavey CS-200X (4) on 2 x 4 mix bi-amp wedge racks
QSC MX-1500 (3) for various throw and go uses.
Yup, it's all heavy.
Yup, it's all PAID FOR, 100 times over....
And they just keep on ticking, with yearly cleaning.
Chris.
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1 Powersoft K10 for JTR Orbit Shifters
2 Crown XTI6002, one for pair of JTR Noesis 3TX, one for Orbit Shifters
1 Crown XLS4002, for pair of EV SX200s
Numerous other powered speakers...
Considering picking up an INuke as a backup amp.
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Used to run all Crown XTI's (1K, 2K, 4K) but sold and switched to:
QSC PL340 (2) for Mains (small SOS Rig) and Monitors
QSC PL380 (1) for Subs
QSC RMX 4050HD (1) for Subs (as backup)
DBX Venue 360 (1) & QSC Basis (1) for LSM
The rest of inventory and new acquisitions are all Powered
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Wedding/Corporate System:
Crown MA 1202 and 2402 for EV Deltamax's
Crown MA 5002 for Subs (either Adamson B-218 or S-218)
2 Powersoft M50Q-DSP+Eth for Monitors (love these things)
24-box Adamson MH-225 System:
4 Audiopro AP-1200 (hi's, mid's)
8 Audiopro AP-3400 (lows, subs)
Not really a fan of powered boxes. Give me a 3 or 4-way system that I can measure and tweak.
-Mark
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24-box Adamson MH-225 System:
Jeez, I loved that system.
Drove a 24 x MH225 and 24 X B218 rig for many years.
The BSS FDS(whatever number) with the custom cards was the fail point of the rig. It was rare we were stereo. One of those damn things always seemed to be "broken"
Great memories, spectacular sounding shows.
On track, That rig was powered with QSC EX-4000, nad EX-2500. LOTS of them !
Chris.
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I actually run iNukes for quite a lot of my system. I do make sure there's a backup amp at each gig, though.
Highs - two channels of an NU4-6000 (other two channels can run a pair of wedges, or bridged to run a couple of subs)
Mids - NU6000
Subs - Crown MA12000i (except for small events with no wedge monitors - see above)
Misc - couple of NU3000DSP, couple of NU6000DSP, Crown MA5002VZ.
The Behringer amps have worked well for me. My biggest gripe is they sound awful if you hit clipping. Some kind of external limiting is mandatory.
Apart from that, they're fairly clean and put out a lot of power in a light package.
I keep thinking of taking the leap up to a Powersoft X4 for the mid-highs and keeping the Crown for subs, but that's a serious chunk of cash for a one-man operation like me.
Chris
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All Crown
6 - IT9000HDs for mains & subs
14 - IT4000s for monitors and smaller stuff
6 - XTI4000's for monitors and smaller stuff
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Something I am soon to be working on to improve:
Tops (4x EAW 850s)
1 QSC Plx 3400 - Tops
2 Crown CE2000s - Mid
2 QSC 4.0 - Woofers
Subs (4x Keystone)
2x iNuke NU-6000s
Monitors (4 12" coax, 4 15" Coax)
1 Powersoft M50q
1 iNuke NU-6000
1 iNuke NU4-6000
Front Fills / Misc
Crown XLS 2500
Spares
iNuke NU4-6000
Carvin 2000 watt something or other.
-Kelly
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Lab Gruppen FP2200, FP2600, FP+7000, IPD1200, IPD2400 powering various EAW boxes.
Have done a few installs with the Lab Gruppen LUCIA stuff and it's great, as well, especially the one with the built in EQ and matrix mixer.
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A Rig
6 Lab Gruppen plm10k’s on tops
(One throws a power supply fault 50% of the time)
2 Itech 8000’s on subs
5 Crest 3.0 on monitors
B Rig
Peavey 4080 and other CS FOH
QSC 3204 On monitors
Still have Carver 1.5’s, crest 7001’s, K2 working and a Yamaha P2000 on my studio monitors!
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2x DNA 20K4 Pro
Running Danleys (SM80, SH96, TH118)
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2x Itech 8000
4x Xti 4000
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Jeez, I loved that system.
Drove a 24 x MH225 and 24 X B218 rig for many years.
The BSS FDS(whatever number) with the custom cards was the fail point of the rig. It was rare we were stereo. One of those damn things always seemed to be "broken"
Great memories, spectacular sounding shows.
On track, That rig was powered with QSC EX-4000, nad EX-2500. LOTS of them !
Chris.
Hey Chris:
My configuration is:
8 MH-225
8 B-218's
8 S-218's
Running 4-way, Aux subs. Xilica DLP 4080 for processing. Great system, heavy as heck.
-Mark
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Powersoft X8 on modified EAW KF750
Powersoft K20 DSP on 2x18» subs loaded with 18sound 18TLW3000.
Sounds really nice and has headroom for days.
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Hey Chris:
My configuration is:
8 MH-225
8 B-218's
8 S-218's
Running 4-way, Aux subs. Xilica DLP 4080 for processing. Great system, heavy as heck.
-Mark
Nice.
Back in "the day", things weren't so bass hungry....
Usually ran equal number of tops to bottoms.
Scared the shit out of a few drummers with 1 over 1 (on both sides) Texas headphones......
Heavy? That's what "crew" is for... ;)
I'll mix on that rig ANY day.
Chris.
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Most of my stuff is vintage. Crown XTI, Crown PT 2.1, Crest CA6 x2, Ev7300, EV P1250, JBL MPX1200, all the way back to Harman Kardon Citation16 x2. The XTI is my newest.
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Crown Itech 6000, 4000’s, Danley DNA 20k’s, QSC RMX 4050HD’s
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KF850/SB528 rig: QSC RMX
Microwedges: Crown XTi
d&b wedges: d&b D20
d&b mains: d&b D80
Various utility boxes: Lab IPD
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Here's a fun idea: Gear Survey. The idea is simple - Post what you have, follow up with thoughts if you want to. The goal is participation.
I thought I'd start with power amps, since there are plenty of passive loudspeakers still in use, and they all need amplification. There's amps you can buy at Parts Express, Banjo Center, Musician's Friend, Sweetie-pie, and the like, and then there's amps you need to know a dealer in order to get -- for instance, I used to hear a lot about Camco (not as much anymore) and I don't think you can buy Powersoft at any of the above outlets, either.
The downside to this idea is that I really ought to go first. I'll betray my newb/"semi-non-pro" (bottom feeder, trunk slammer, hobbyist, local boob, call it what you want) status by saying I have a couple Behringer NU1000DSPs and an EPQ450. Well, at least it's something (in that it's slightly more than nothing). Reliability in the iNukes was questionable early on, but they haven't broken on me yet (for the few tiny gigs I have done with my "big toy stereo" - mostly favors, a couple outdoor parties and one girl-with-guitar, plus plenty of futzing around), and the iNuke DSP interface is dynamite, dead-simple for the basic configurations you'd want to do in processing, though it's not networkable and there aren't any 'frills'. As long as these hold on, these will probably be the last things I upgrade, though for subs I'm thinking of moving to a NU3000DSP for my two Community VBS112, and probably a second one for my RH TRX81/9 mains. (It's not called the Tiny PA for nothing.) Crest Pro-Lite is also on the menu...
Any takers?
All Crown amps
Rack 1: XS4300, XTI4000, Itech 6000
Rack 2: XS4300, XTI4000, Itech 6000
Rack 3: XS4300, XTI4000, Itech 8000
Rack 4: XS4300, XLS1500, XTI4000
Rack 5: XS4300, IT6000
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Peavey CS4000's bridged for subs
CS4080 for mids
GPS1500 for highs
Crest CC4000 backup sub amps and monitors
QSC mx1500a monitors
QSC rmx2450 monitors
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SRX835p & 3x Danley TH118s
1x iTech 8k - Subs
2x RMX - Sub, backup
I want to buy a DNA20k4 and be done for forever though :)
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Oh Gawd! I'm so very late to the party.
Mains: Powersoft K-series -- they trip GFCIs now and then but generally kick ass. Armonia is pretty decent.
Monitors and small gigs: Powersoft Ottocanali -- this thing is light weight and very flexible. My "power briefcase".
Home hi-fi and speaker testing: QSC PLX II series -- low distortion at all, including very low, power levels.
Retired (because I can't stand the DSP control app): Lab Gruppen PLM10000Q. A fine amplifier though. Anyone wanna buy it?
--Frank
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Retired (because I can't stand the DSP control app): Lab Gruppen PLM10000Q. A fine amplifier though. Anyone wanna buy it?
--Frank
PM me with pricing and shipping to UK.
Chris
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I'm all active now, but it was QSC RMX series.
Steve.
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Currently
Mackie M1400i
Crown CE4000
Behringer NU-6000DSP
3X Crest 8002 (1 has a channel fault)
2x Powersoft K20-DSP
2X Speakerpower SP2-12000
IPAL module
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All QSC
Mains
8x PL 236
4x PL 380
2x PL 340
1x PLD 4.5
Monitors
4x PLX 3602
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