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Title: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on January 30, 2018, 03:26:09 AM
Hi there I'm new to this forum I have read a few threads about you guys that have these speakers(srx815p,srx818sp) what settings you recommend me?

I just use srx top on my subs and srx sub on the tops also I run tops at 0db and subs at 8...I'm curious to see how you guys setting up yours..

I heard about added gain but don't know much about it..
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Steve Garris on January 30, 2018, 01:22:23 PM
Hi there I'm new to this forum I have read a few threads about you guys that have these speakers(srx815p,srx818sp) what settings you recommend me?

I just use srx top on my subs and srx sub on the tops also I run tops at 0db and subs at 8...I'm curious to see how you guys setting up yours..

I heard about added gain but don't know much about it..

You best bet is to run the subs at max volume, and set your top volume to taste. If both top & bottom are SRX series then you should absolutely use their settings. The added gain is done by connecting the speakers via wifi to a computer or ipad, and turning up the make-up gain on the speaker's compressor. I do not recommend playing with these settings. I run my 815 tops at +5.5 with my 818's at full - +12 I think.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Tim McCulloch on January 30, 2018, 01:30:46 PM
Hi there I'm new to this forum I have read a few threads about you guys that have these speakers(srx815p,srx818sp) what settings you recommend me?

I just use srx top on my subs and srx sub on the tops also I run tops at 0db and subs at 8...I'm curious to see how you guys setting up yours..

I heard about added gain but don't know much about it..

That's the way you're supposed to do it, at least regarding the presets.

The "added gain" is not necessary unless someone glued-in-place your mixer's main output controls.  ;)

Seriously, there were early users who were accustomed to speakers with a greater input sensitivity and for some reason could not understand that all they needed to do was turn up the mixer outputs by 6dB or so.  A convoluted work-around was found involving the compressor at the *input* stage of the SRX8xx but, as I said, isn't needed. It will NOT make the speakers have a greater available output; they'll simply get loud with less mixer output.

I'd run the subs WFO (Wide Freakin' Open) and adjust the 815 to balance to taste.  When you're "out of sub" you're at your max volume for the tonal balance you desire.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on January 30, 2018, 02:14:08 PM
Yep - I agree with the others ... run subs at about full and adjust tops appropriately. Set SRX subs HP at 'TOP' and SRX Tops at 'SUB' and you'll be fine.

Your settings sound fine if that is all the SPL you require and you like the subs to be a bit louder.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on January 30, 2018, 06:10:18 PM
You best bet is to run the subs at max volume, and set your top volume to taste. If both top & bottom are SRX series then you should absolutely use their settings. The added gain is done by connecting the speakers via wifi to a computer or ipad, and turning up the make-up gain on the speaker's compressor. I do not recommend playing with these settings. I run my 815 tops at +5.5 with my 818's at full - +12 I think.

Thanks for the info this weekend i will try my both subs at full..my 815p I usually ran them at 0db and..I really don't want to mess with the compressor settings or the app lol..
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on January 30, 2018, 06:12:27 PM
That's the way you're supposed to do it, at least regarding the presets.

The "added gain" is not necessary unless someone glued-in-place your mixer's main output controls.  ;)

Seriously, there were early users who were accustomed to speakers with a greater input sensitivity and for some reason could not understand that all they needed to do was turn up the mixer outputs by 6dB or so.  A convoluted work-around was found involving the compressor at the *input* stage of the SRX8xx but, as I said, isn't needed. It will NOT make the speakers have a greater available output; they'll simply get loud with less mixer output.

I'd run the subs WFO (Wide Freakin' Open) and adjust the 815 to balance to taste.  When you're "out of sub" you're at your max volume for the tonal balance you desire.
Thank you i will run the subs at full...I came from 1 Yorkville ls801p and these srx818sp sound way better but 1 York is still loud lol...I'll chime back in when use them at full
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on January 30, 2018, 06:14:25 PM
Yep - I agree with the others ... run subs at about full and adjust tops appropriately. Set SRX subs HP at 'TOP' and SRX Tops at 'SUB' and you'll be fine.

Your settings sound fine if that is all the SPL you require and you like the subs to be a bit louder.
Yes so far I'm loving that setting,at first I was thinking to use the 100hz on both but seems the srx top and bottom settings are better..

I might get a srx828sp down the line hope I can connect all together too..
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Luke Geis on January 31, 2018, 05:02:51 PM
I was one of the early " convoluted " users who may have invented the " make up gain " trick as a work around to the impression of low output. With the testing I had done, my findings were you actually could acquire a couple db of extra output vs. what the metering was telling you.

The basic facts are simple though.

1. The speaker will put out the same peak SPL regardless of what you do with the settings.

2. The speaker has a lower input sensitivity than most are used to requiring that you either run a hotter signal to the speaker, or even simpler, turn the speakers master levels up.

3. The use of any tricks to get the needed SPL are not needed once you get accustomed to the way the speakers work.

I had two sets that I initially had installed in two venues and that is when I was trying to find a way to make it seem like the speaker was doing less work for the same output. I wanted to ensure longevity. I initially felt that the speakers were out of room and that I had to push too hard to get the desired SPL. I soon learned that the speakers have a very large amount of safety built into them. The limiting starts early and remains very subtle until it needs to actually do some work. The point in which the limiting actually starts to become noticeable is usually well after you have acquired plenty of SPL at normal distances and under normal and expected use.

I currently own a set of SRX812's and the SRX818's and as a proof of concept to myself I ran them at their respective unity gains ( 0db and no increase in master level ) to see how they worked for me under my normal running conditions. I found that I needed no change to the settings on the speaker. I ran with the SRX tops and SRX subs settings as suggested. I ran the subs on an aux which I think is essential. I didn't find that I needed any more drive signal level than before to get the desired SPL.

There is a new Firmware that is out for the SRX line now and that may have something to do with that? I did the update before I made my maiden voyage with my set of speakers. They don't mention a change in metering in the release notes though.
 
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on January 31, 2018, 07:34:45 PM
I was one of the early " convoluted " users who may have invented the " make up gain " trick as a work around to the impression of low output. With the testing I had done, my findings were you actually could acquire a couple db of extra output vs. what the metering was telling you.

The basic facts are simple though.

1. The speaker will put out the same peak SPL regardless of what you do with the settings.

2. The speaker has a lower input sensitivity than most are used to requiring that you either run a hotter signal to the speaker, or even simpler, turn the speakers master levels up.

3. The use of any tricks to get the needed SPL are not needed once you get accustomed to the way the speakers work.

I had two sets that I initially had installed in two venues and that is when I was trying to find a way to make it seem like the speaker was doing less work for the same output. I wanted to ensure longevity. I initially felt that the speakers were out of room and that I had to push too hard to get the desired SPL. I soon learned that the speakers have a very large amount of safety built into them. The limiting starts early and remains very subtle until it needs to actually do some work. The point in which the limiting actually starts to become noticeable is usually well after you have acquired plenty of SPL at normal distances and under normal and expected use.

I currently own a set of SRX812's and the SRX818's and as a proof of concept to myself I ran them at their respective unity gains ( 0db and no increase in master level ) to see how they worked for me under my normal running conditions. I found that I needed no change to the settings on the speaker. I ran with the SRX tops and SRX subs settings as suggested. I ran the subs on an aux which I think is essential. I didn't find that I needed any more drive signal level than before to get the desired SPL.

There is a new Firmware that is out for the SRX line now and that may have something to do with that? I did the update before I made my maiden voyage with my set of speakers. They don't mention a change in metering in the release notes though.
I read about the make up gain in here right now it seems like running my 2 srx818sp subs at full is perfect...hope I don't need the make up gain in future...and my srx815p at 0db or when I get bigger gigs at 6...also with srx top and bottom settings....

When I first got the srx815p I noticed that I needed to feed them more power....i had one of the srx815p amp went out last year with almost no volume it would just make a popping noise and would turn on and off it was a faulty amp and got a brand new one from jbl good warranty.

About the firmware update I remember doing a update for my srx815ps...i gotta check later if my srx818sp have the newest one...hope it's something good lol.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Steve Garris on February 01, 2018, 12:49:54 PM
I read about the make up gain in here right now it seems like running my 2 srx818sp subs at full is perfect...hope I don't need the make up gain in future...and my srx815p at 0db or when I get bigger gigs at 6...also with srx top and bottom settings....

When I first got the srx815p I noticed that I needed to feed them more power....i had one of the srx815p amp went out last year with almost no volume it would just make a popping noise and would turn on and off it was a faulty amp and got a brand new one from jbl good warranty.

About the firmware update I remember doing a update for my srx815ps...i gotta check later if my srx818sp have the newest one...hope it's something good lol.

Didn't know about the firmware update - thanks!
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Ron Ventour on February 21, 2018, 11:36:08 PM
Is there a firmware update for the srx boxes as stated above...can’t seem to find no info no where.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Tim McCulloch on February 21, 2018, 11:58:18 PM
Is there a firmware update for the srx boxes as stated above...can’t seem to find no info no where.

The most current firmware for all Crown, JBL, and other Harman Professional brands is in the latest release of Audio Architect.  There may be other utilities...
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Ron Ventour on February 24, 2018, 09:33:28 AM
Anybody using 2 srx818 with 1 srx812 per side? tried it for the first time last night and it sounded more balanced...1 srx818 per side with 1 srx812 i always felt 1 srx818 wasn't enough..the srx812 can get pretty loud..with 2 srx818 per side it sounds perfect/awesome..
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on February 25, 2018, 03:42:47 AM
Anybody using 2 srx818 with 1 srx812 per side? tried it for the first time last night and it sounded more balanced...1 srx818 per side with 1 srx812 i always felt 1 srx818 wasn't enough..the srx812 can get pretty loud..with 2 srx818 per side it sounds perfect/awesome..

I use 2 srx815p and 2 srx818sp...I plan on getting 2 more srx818sp or 1 srx828sp....I'm always using subs I should of got srx812 lol smh....also i agree with you sounds more balnced with 4 subs is because the tops are pretty powerful...

Also what volume are you running your tops and bottoms?
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Ron Ventour on February 25, 2018, 09:42:56 AM
I use 2 srx815p and 2 srx818sp...I plan on getting 2 more srx818sp or 1 srx828sp....I'm always using subs I should of got srx812 lol smh....also i agree with you sounds more balnced with 4 subs is because the tops are pretty powerful...

Also what volume are you running your tops and bottoms?

i usually keep the tops at 0 and the subs at +5 or tops +4 to +5 and subs at +12
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Steve Garris on February 25, 2018, 03:03:36 PM
Anybody using 2 srx818 with 1 srx812 per side? tried it for the first time last night and it sounded more balanced...1 srx818 per side with 1 srx812 i always felt 1 srx818 wasn't enough..the srx812 can get pretty loud..with 2 srx818 per side it sounds perfect/awesome..

I have the single 18's with the 815 tops and yes, when I run a mono sub-stack that side sounds perfect. My plan is to add a single 828. The only bummer about the 828 is that it has no pole socket.

I run my 818's wide open and the tops set to +5, or as needed.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on February 25, 2018, 03:58:16 PM
A pair of SRX815's will ALWAYS outrun a pair of SRX818's.
However, a good example for me in a small/medium venue would be SRX818's at full and SRX812/SRX815 at around 6.
Larger venues I can use an added SRX828 at full and still only have the SRX's at around 10-11.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on February 27, 2018, 01:45:20 AM
i usually keep the tops at 0 and the subs at +5 or tops +4 to +5 and subs at +12
That's good settings..I been running my 2 srx818sp at full like the people here recommended me and I'm loving how they sound,and tops at 0 or +6 depending the event.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on February 27, 2018, 01:54:48 AM
A pair of SRX815's will ALWAYS outrun a pair of SRX818's.
However, a good example for me in a small/medium venue would be SRX818's at full and SRX812/SRX815 at around 6.
Larger venues I can use an added SRX828 at full and still only have the SRX's at around 10-11.
Hi there Debbie I like your setup ..right now I'm having a hard time deciding between the srx828sp or another pair of srx818sp to go with my other 2...is the srx828sp better since its a bigger box?..
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on February 27, 2018, 09:00:15 AM
Hi there Debbie I like your setup ..right now I'm having a hard time deciding between the srx828sp or another pair of srx818sp to go with my other 2...is the srx828sp better since its a bigger box?..
Jonathan my decision to get the SRX828 instead of the 2 SRX818's was based solely on 2 things: cost and space.
The SRX828 is stupid good value for money compared to the SRX818 and it takes up a little less room than 2 of them.
The down side of course is that there is no pole cup and it is bigger and heavier to move around.
Better?... it depends. I doubt there is any audible difference between 2x SRX818's or 1x SRX828.
IMO as long as you don't mind about the cons to the bigger box, save yourself some cash and get that instead - especially as you already have the SRX818's like I do for scaleability.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Ron Ventour on March 02, 2018, 09:45:20 AM
A pair of SRX815's will ALWAYS outrun a pair of SRX818's.
However, a good example for me in a small/medium venue would be SRX818's at full and SRX812/SRX815 at around 6.
Larger venues I can use an added SRX828 at full and still only have the SRX's at around 10-11.

correct thats why im starting to use 4 srx818's with 2 srx812's...2 srx818's per side with 1 srx812....it sounds awesome in this config.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Ron Ventour on March 02, 2018, 10:00:26 AM
Jonathan my decision to get the SRX828 instead of the 2 SRX818's was based solely on 2 things: cost and space.
The SRX828 is stupid good value for money compared to the SRX818 and it takes up a little less room than 2 of them.
The down side of course is that there is no pole cup and it is bigger and heavier to move around.
Better?... it depends. I doubt there is any audible difference between 2x SRX818's or 1x SRX828.
IMO as long as you don't mind about the cons to the bigger box, save yourself some cash and get that instead - especially as you already have the SRX818's like I do for scaleability.

i went with 2 more srx818's to go along with my existing 818's because 1...scaleability 2....pole mount on top 3...got a good deal on B stock 818's from a vendor that was around the same price as buying one new srx828, surprisingly the B stock 818's looked brand new when i got them and not b stock at all....2 818's has the same output in 1 828 in my opinion..
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Ron Ventour on March 02, 2018, 10:10:20 AM
Another question for the massives that uses the srx boxes, has anybody been able to successfully eq these boxes with the Audio Architect or Srx Connect app and make them sound good? I use the Audio Architect app and could never seem to get the eq to sound right, however with my  QSC TouchMix 16 im able to eq the srx boxes quite easily and my boxes sound superb with the touchmix eq 
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Luke Geis on March 02, 2018, 01:16:44 PM
Not sure what it is about them that you would want to EQ out or into them? They are pretty much the most linear box you can get at this price point and they sound really good out of the box. I find that I only have to EQ the room out of them, which is usually small cuts here or there to keep the room from getting to excited.

I have used the internal EQ before and it seemed to be just fine albeit a little more cumbersome to utilize. I just haven't found a need to set a static EQ profile within the speaker and do all my EQ work from my mixer. The only processing I use in the speakers are teh crossovers. Those seem to do an exceptional job and I run subs on an aux so I can fine tune time alignment as needed from the mixer.

For the majority of us ( on this forum ) sounding good is not so much about the box sounding pretty or musical. We mostly shoot for linear or flat sounding boxes. In essence we are shooting to have the whitest canvas we can to play music through. It doesn't sound as pretty perhaps ( depends on the individual ), but it really helps make mixing and solving problems easy.

I would say that if you wanted a more pleasant sounding box, you may have considered a different one. There are fewer and fewer speakers these days that are tuned to sound musically good as opposed to being as neutral / linear as they can get them. QSC, Turbosound and Mackie are a few that I would consider fall into the more characterized " musical " boxes. It's not that a linear box sounds bad, it just has a sound. Some like it, some don't.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on March 02, 2018, 02:00:55 PM
I agree with Luke. I have NEVER had to use the app to change the sound of my system. Everything sounded great out of the box.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on March 03, 2018, 02:33:35 AM
Jonathan my decision to get the SRX828 instead of the 2 SRX818's was based solely on 2 things: cost and space.
The SRX828 is stupid good value for money compared to the SRX818 and it takes up a little less room than 2 of them.
The down side of course is that there is no pole cup and it is bigger and heavier to move around.
Better?... it depends. I doubt there is any audible difference between 2x SRX818's or 1x SRX828.
IMO as long as you don't mind about the cons to the bigger box, save yourself some cash and get that instead - especially as you already have the SRX818's like I do for scaleability.
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Thanks for the help Debbie right now ima see if I can get a good deal between the 2...
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on March 03, 2018, 02:41:42 AM
i went with 2 more srx818's to go along with my existing 818's because 1...scaleability 2....pole mount on top 3...got a good deal on B stock 818's from a vendor that was around the same price as buying one new srx828, surprisingly the B stock 818's looked brand new when i got them and not b stock at all....2 818's has the same output in 1 828 in my opinion..
Hey Ron how are you connecting all 4 subs and  your srx812s...you going from mixer to 2 subs then out to the other 2 subs then the tops?.

Another thing I wanted to ask when your using all 4 subs are you using the srx top crossover on all 4 srx818sp?
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Ron Ventour on March 03, 2018, 09:36:36 AM
Not sure what it is about them that you would want to EQ out or into them? They are pretty much the most linear box you can get at this price point and they sound really good out of the box. I find that I only have to EQ the room out of them, which is usually small cuts here or there to keep the room from getting to excited.

I have used the internal EQ before and it seemed to be just fine albeit a little more cumbersome to utilize. I just haven't found a need to set a static EQ profile within the speaker and do all my EQ work from my mixer. The only processing I use in the speakers are teh crossovers. Those seem to do an exceptional job and I run subs on an aux so I can fine tune time alignment as needed from the mixer.

For the majority of us ( on this forum ) sounding good is not so much about the box sounding pretty or musical. We mostly shoot for linear or flat sounding boxes. In essence we are shooting to have the whitest canvas we can to play music through. It doesn't sound as pretty perhaps ( depends on the individual ), but it really helps make mixing and solving problems easy.

I would say that if you wanted a more pleasant sounding box, you may have considered a different one. There are fewer and fewer speakers these days that are tuned to sound musically good as opposed to being as neutral / linear as they can get them. QSC, Turbosound and Mackie are a few that I would consider fall into the more characterized " musical " boxes. It's not that a linear box sounds bad, it just has a sound. Some like it, some don't.

im guessing you use the srx boxes for live sound? i use mines for dj play back reggae/ soca music....im not saying the srx boxes don't sound pleasant they actually sound superb and i always add a little eq for the type of music i play..like i said above using the eq from the qsc touchmix i could ring out the srx boxes to how i want them to sound but with the audio architect app it was always a nightmare trying to use it..
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Ron Ventour on March 03, 2018, 10:17:25 AM
Hey Ron how are you connecting all 4 subs and  your srx812s...you going from mixer to 2 subs then out to the other 2 subs then the tops?.

Another thing I wanted to ask when your using all 4 subs are you using the srx top crossover on all 4 srx818sp?

Im going from my qsc touchmix out to the subs then out to the tops...stacked 2 high i go from my mixer to the bottom 818, set at 80hz...then from the bottom 818 to the 2nd 818 stacked above it and i set that at srx top...from the 2nd box to the srx812 on top i set that at srx sub..
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on March 03, 2018, 11:28:48 AM
Im going from my qsc touchmix out to the subs then out to the tops...stacked 2 high i go from my mixer to the bottom 818, set at 80hz...then from the bottom 818 to the 2nd 818 stacked above it and i set that at srx top...from the 2nd box to the srx812 on top i set that at srx sub..
Thanks for the info Ron,I'm going to pick up a pair of srx818sp or 1 srx828sp soon...when I do I don't think I will need tripods for my srx815ps or the poles...I'm just worried if they fall down with vibration from the subs lol.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on March 03, 2018, 12:14:55 PM
Thanks for the info Ron,I'm going to pick up a pair of srx818sp or 1 srx828sp soon...when I do I don't think I will need tripods for my srx815ps or the poles...I'm just worried if they fall down with vibration from the subs lol.

Jonathan ... set the subs to 'SRX top' and the tops to 'SRX sub'.
These are the recommended settings from JBL and are designed to work best when using the internal DSP and crossovers for SRX800 systems.  The 60hz, 80hz and 100hz settings are usually chosen when using a non SRX800 series speaker. Of course YMMV.

If not using poles or tripods, make sure to secure the tops in some way - don't rely on them loosely placed on the subs.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Luke Geis on March 03, 2018, 03:11:34 PM
The SRX Connect App I agree is absolute garbage. The actual Audio Architect software that is loaded on your computer is very, very nice to work with. Once you have the " Venue " set up and saved, making changes and modifying settings is a breeze.

I use them for live sound and DJ type setups as well, but I may have a different approach to things. The one thing I learned years ago was to not play god with sound. Make the PA work for you, not you working for the PA. While I agree that making every song sound good is ideal, it also means you are " playing god " with sound. If you can imagine that a speaker system untouched is as neutral ( unbiased and non discriminate ) as anything can be, if a song played through it sounds bad and the next song doesn't, it isn't the PA, it is the song that sounded that way. This is why we do initial tuning of the PA with songs we are really familiar with. If that song sounds good / right, chances are everything else should also sound good / right.

In the case of tuning out minor inconsistencies in music I agree that can and should be done. I usually set up a shelving filter for the highs that cuts several db off the highs down to around 5khz. I then turn the EQ on or off as needed to utilize the EQ. As for the amount of lows, I always run subs on an aux and will turn up or down the subs aux send to fill out or reduce the very low end as needed. Some songs simply have A LOT of low end content and I may use a low cut shelving filter to reduce the overall bass content if needed. The main goal is to utilize and spend as little time fooling around with the EQ as possible. At some point you just have to except that some songs are better produced than others and trying to fix everything that comes through the PA is an effort in futility.

I agree with Debbie, if you place the speaker on top of the subs without a pole, plan on finding a way to affix it to the subs so it doesn't rattle off. The SRX line works extremely well with itself and utilizing the SRX SUBS and SRX TOPS crossover settings simply work. Have fun!!!
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on March 03, 2018, 08:05:43 PM
Jonathan ... set the subs to 'SRX top' and the tops to 'SRX sub'.
These are the recommended settings from JBL and are designed to work best when using the internal DSP and crossovers for SRX800 systems.  The 60hz, 80hz and 100hz settings are usually chosen when using a non SRX800 series speaker. Of course YMMV.

If not using poles or tripods, make sure to secure the tops in some way - don't rely on them loosely placed on the subs.
Thanks for the info Debbie when I get all 4 subs I will use srx top on all the 4 subs....so far I'm loving my 2 srx815s with 2 srx818sp combo I just want that extra bass lol.

For the srx815p when I get the other 2 subs to play it safe I will tie them down with something..

I wanted to get the jbl poles but if ima be running 4 subs I should just put the srx815p on top stacked with 2 subs on bottom.
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Jonathan Arce on March 03, 2018, 08:12:41 PM
The SRX Connect App I agree is absolute garbage. The actual Audio Architect software that is loaded on your computer is very, very nice to work with. Once you have the " Venue " set up and saved, making changes and modifying settings is a breeze.

I use them for live sound and DJ type setups as well, but I may have a different approach to things. The one thing I learned years ago was to not play god with sound. Make the PA work for you, not you working for the PA. While I agree that making every song sound good is ideal, it also means you are " playing god " with sound. If you can imagine that a speaker system untouched is as neutral ( unbiased and non discriminate ) as anything can be, if a song played through it sounds bad and the next song doesn't, it isn't the PA, it is the song that sounded that way. This is why we do initial tuning of the PA with songs we are really familiar with. If that song sounds good / right, chances are everything else should also sound good / right.

In the case of tuning out minor inconsistencies in music I agree that can and should be done. I usually set up a shelving filter for the highs that cuts several db off the highs down to around 5khz. I then turn the EQ on or off as needed to utilize the EQ. As for the amount of lows, I always run subs on an aux and will turn up or down the subs aux send to fill out or reduce the very low end as needed. Some songs simply have A LOT of low end content and I may use a low cut shelving filter to reduce the overall bass content if needed. The main goal is to utilize and spend as little time fooling around with the EQ as possible. At some point you just have to except that some songs are better produced than others and trying to fix everything that comes through the PA is an effort in futility.

I agree with Debbie, if you place the speaker on top of the subs without a pole, plan on finding a way to affix it to the subs so it doesn't rattle off. The SRX line works extremely well with itself and utilizing the SRX SUBS and SRX TOPS crossover settings simply work. Have fun!!!
I agree with you like I don't like the app for these speakers too I'm always using the speaker settings much better and simple...

For the speakers I think I will tie them down with something.

I wanted to ask have any of you had any of these speakers died on you like the amp quit?
 
I had one srx815p failed on me with low volume back in the day just would turn on and off and would make a popping sound and would say protect on the amp...good thing I still had warranty jbl send me a new one...maybe i got a faulty one?
Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Steve Garris on March 04, 2018, 02:54:41 PM
I agree with you like I don't like the app for these speakers too I'm always using the speaker settings much better and simple...

For the speakers I think I will tie them down with something.

I wanted to ask have any of you had any of these speakers died on you like the amp quit?
 
I had one srx815p failed on me with low volume back in the day just would turn on and off and would make a popping sound and would say protect on the amp...good thing I still had warranty jbl send me a new one...maybe i got a faulty one?

I received a bad 815 right out of the box. JBL sent me a new one right away. They've been great since then.

Title: Re: Srx815p and Srx818sp settings
Post by: Tim McCulloch on March 04, 2018, 05:01:50 PM

I had one srx815p failed on me with low volume back in the day just would turn on and off and would make a popping sound and would say protect on the amp...good thing I still had warranty jbl send me a new one...maybe i got a faulty one?

The answer is yes, it was faulty. JBL replaced it, as they should.