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Title: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Phil Graham on November 16, 2012, 08:51:21 AM
Hello all,

My name is Phil, and I'm new to prosoundweb ;-p

I just wanted to introduce myself and ask about kick drum mics.

Cheers,

PS does the posting captcha eventually go away?
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Robert Piascik on November 16, 2012, 09:26:48 AM
Ha! I'm so happy to get to be the one to post this! Even if 'Phil' is not real!

http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,170.0.html
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: TJ (Tom) Cornish on November 16, 2012, 09:49:01 AM
Hello all,

My name is Phil, and I'm new to prosoundweb ;-p

I just wanted to introduce myself and ask about kick drum mics.

Cheers,

PS does the posting captcha eventually go away?
Yep. 

Phil - a couple thoughts for you as a newbie:

- The red light on your speakers is mislabeled.  Instead of saying "clip", it should read "Minimum signal level".  When it's on solid, that means you're not "underpowering" your speaker, and therefore won't blow it up.

- That burning smell - it's "Potpourrí du Drivér" - a under-used built-in feature of all speakers for a multi-sensory experience.  Some really special speakers can create "Woofér en Flāme", which can take your show to a whole 'nother level.
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: John Roberts {JR} on November 16, 2012, 10:01:47 AM


PS does the posting captcha eventually go away?

Only if you behave......

Hi Phil...

JR
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Phil Graham on November 16, 2012, 11:11:20 AM
Yep. 

Phil - a couple thoughts for you as a newbie:

- The red light on your speakers is mislabeled.  Instead of saying "clip", it should read "Minimum signal level".  When it's on solid, that means you're not "underpowering" your speaker, and therefore won't blow it up.

- That burning smell - it's "Potpourrí du Drivér" - a under-used built-in feature of all speakers for a multi-sensory experience.  Some really special speakers can create "Woofér en Flāme", which can take your show to a whole 'nother level.

Valuable things to know as I journey into pro sound!
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Tom Danley on November 16, 2012, 11:23:22 AM
Hello all,

My name is Phil, and I'm new to prosoundweb ;-p

I just wanted to introduce myself and ask about kick drum mics.

Cheers,

PS does the posting captcha eventually go away?

Hi Phil
Welcome aboard!
You know, there are two schools of thought on kick mic’s one is that you use the mic stuck in a hole in the drum head or close to it.    The more modern approach is to drug the drummer and get him to agree to let you substitute a good microphone for the mallet head on his foot pedal.  This is easy if you have a roll of gaff tape, just use a ton of it.   
By using the microphone as the drum beater, you have eliminated all the time smear problems caused by  drummer foot odor etc, I mean the mic is the first thing to be where the sound is, you can’t get any closer than that!. 

So far as microphones, one like in your image would be fine, just cut those springs off with a good wire cutter and speaking of wire, that’s the most important thing of all, you have to have a mic cable!
Anyway Phil, I feel like we may have met in a past life or perhaps cookie, have a fine day.
Best,
Tom
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Brad Weber on November 16, 2012, 11:27:27 AM
- The red light on your speakers is mislabeled.  Instead of saying "clip", it should read "Minimum signal level".  When it's on solid, that means you're not "underpowering" your speaker, and therefore won't blow it up.
First, welcome Phil!  Your name sounds vaguely familiar, have we met before?
 
TJ, watching how many "sound engineers" around here operate the general approach seems to be that the "signal" indicator is there to show that there is a good signal path and should be lit with no audio while the "clip" light is indication that you are getting a reasonable signal level and should be lit whenever there is audio.  And 0dB is a good nominal signal level, ignore all that techno-babble about the differences between dBu, dBm, dBFS, etc., they're all dB.
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Pat Latimer on November 16, 2012, 11:40:51 AM
Who's Phil Graham? ;)
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Ivan Beaver on November 16, 2012, 11:46:15 AM
Who's Phil Graham? ;)
I've never meet the dude-----------------------------HA-HA
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: TJ (Tom) Cornish on November 16, 2012, 12:52:03 PM
First, welcome Phil!  Your name sounds vaguely familiar, have we met before?
 
TJ, watching how many "sound engineers" around here operate the general approach seems to be that the "signal" indicator is there to show that there is a good signal path and should be lit with no audio while the "clip" light is indication that you are getting a reasonable signal level and should be lit whenever there is audio.  And 0dB is a good nominal signal level, ignore all that techno-babble about the differences between dBu, dBm, dBFS, etc., they're all dB.
Is this like the "comfort noise" that phone companies add to the phone line so you know if you're still on the call?  75dB of hiss from the PA means it's working?
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Doug Fowler on November 16, 2012, 04:36:38 PM
Who's Phil Graham? ;)

Phill Graham's cousin. 
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Bob Leonard on November 16, 2012, 05:35:20 PM
Nice to meet you Phil. Don't pay attention to those other guys above, most of them are DJs. If you really want some good sound from the kick drum it's best that you duct tape a Realistic mic to the front of the drum pointing up towards the simballs. And don't let these guys fool you. The hole in the front is where you put the left over cable so no one trips on it.
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Nick Enright on November 25, 2012, 11:07:26 AM
Hello all,

My name is Phil, and I'm new to prosoundweb ;-p

I just wanted to introduce myself and ask about kick drum mics.

Cheers,

PS does the posting captcha eventually go away?

I prefer  to dip all my mics in LN2 -- cryogenic treatment more accurately aligns the molecules of the metals in the wires, while also reducing the inherent vibrations in the structure of the polymer diaphragms. It's like turning the talent knob to 11.

Good to see ya again.
Title: Re: Introduction - I'm new here :)
Post by: Marjan Milosevic on November 29, 2012, 05:54:11 AM
Nice to meet you Phil. Don't pay attention to those other guys above, most of them are DJs. If you really want some good sound from the kick drum it's best that you duct tape a Realistic mic to the front of the drum pointing up towards the simballs. And don't let these guys fool you. The hole in the front is where you put the left over cable so no one trips on it.

Lol, i have a band over here that is doing exactly that :-)