Matthew Whitman wrote on Tue, 08 January 2008 11:03 |
Am I splitting hairs here, or should I stick to my pedantic guns? -Matt |
Dave Dermont wrote on Tue, 08 January 2008 13:29 |
Yeah, ...I have given up trying to get people to stop calling a lectern a podium. I call them "PA Systems", but the PA stands for "Performance Audio". |
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If this is what keeps you up at night, you must live a wonderful life. |
Matthew Whitman wrote on Tue, 08 January 2008 16:59 | ||
I do live a wonderful life. However, it isn't acronyms that keep me awake, but rather the pitter-patter of invisible gremlins as they scamper across the ceiling. -MW |
Matthew Whitman wrote on Tue, 08 January 2008 17:59 |
However, it isn't acronyms that keep me awake, |
Dave Dermont wrote on Tue, 08 January 2008 13:29 |
Yeah...I have given up trying to get people to stop calling a lectern a podium. |
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Words mean whatever the people who say them and the people who hear them think they mean. Your "distinguished instructor" doesn't get to decide what "PA" or "SR" or "Sound System" mean to everyone who says these things or hears these things. |
Matthew Whitman wrote on Tue, 08 January 2008 12:03 |
Back in the day I was taught that a concert sound system should not be referred to as a "PA". A PA, my distinguised instructor stated, is a system used purely to address the public (think back to announcements made by your elementary school principal). Problems tend to arise for me, however, when I describe my "sound system". People immediately start asking me to help them with their car stereos and home theaters. If I say "PA", folks generally know what I'm talking about. Am I splitting hairs here, or should I stick to my pedantic guns? |
Andy Peters wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 11:38 |
As a top-grade pedant, I say: Stick to your guns! We are sliding down towards an idiocracy .... -a |
Matthew Whitman wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 10:44 | ||
This reply makes absolutely no sense. Perhaps you might change your mind when your doctor asks for a tongue depressor and the nurse hands him an anal probe. "Oh, sorry doctor, but to me tongue depressor means anal probe." "No problem, I actually needed a stethoscope, but I refer to it as a tongue depressor." That's called reductio ad absurdum, by the way. I learned it from my high school debate teacher. Would you like to discredit her, too, while you're at it? -Matt |
Ian Hunt wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 23:14 |
Who on earth did you marry? |
Scott Van Den Elzen wrote on Tue, 08 January 2008 23:25 |
Words mean whatever the people who say them and the people who hear them think they mean... |
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Ian Hunt wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 23:14 Who on earth did you marry? Ian, I believe he is talking about a dog. |
Matthew Whitman wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 13:14 | ||
I got the impression Mr. Donohue was talking about a baby girl. I don't know too many folks that feed their canines pureed apples and sweet potatoes. Those types of foods tend to irritate a dog's PA (poop activator). Peace out, Matt |
Scott Van Den Elzen wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 21:06 | ||||
One of the reasons communication is a lot of work is that the same words mean different things to different people. We all have different context that causes us to interpret language differently. My point is that sticking to a rigid definition for a term like "PA" is likely to make things more difficult for yourself. Meanwhile, those who don't take such things too seriously can live in blissful ignorance. When describing your "PA/Sound System," is it better to be "right" or understood? If it's up to me, I choose to be understood. |
Walter Wright wrote on Sun, 13 January 2008 15:55 |
stfu n00b lol language is sort of like genetics. populations naturally drift over time to new variations, and eventually populations isolated from each other can no longer interbreed (or understand each other, to follow the metaphor). |
Walter Wright wrote on Sun, 13 January 2008 15:55 |
written language tends to help "hold the line", but it's always a tug-of-war between what's "correct" and what's actually used. for example, my understanding is that in the term "short-lived" the "i" in "lived" is correctly pronounced like "drive". but if i were to say "short-lived" like that in conversation, the person i was talking to would likely say, "what?", halting the conversation. i would therefore be "wrong" in what i was saying. |
Walter Wright wrote on Sun, 13 January 2008 15:55 |
dictionaries are properly "descriptive", not "prescriptive". they follow the language, not enforce it. |
Walter Wright wrote on Sun, 13 January 2008 15:55 |
(i still try my damnedest to write grammatically, even if i do allow myself the internet convention of not using caps.) |