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Title: Sub handles - what do we like?
Post by: Chris Grimshaw on April 27, 2017, 03:46:51 AM

Hi all,

Having made a couple of prototypes, it's time to start building a new set of subwoofers. They're 15" and ported, with a similar form-factor to a QSC KW181, albeit a little smaller and lighter. They'll still have wheels, though.

I have lots of experience throwing Nexo Alpha (good handling) and Martin Blackline (terrible handling) around, but not as much with the smaller-format stuff - my previous subs were tiny, and only needed one handle. So, I was wondering what y'all think.

I could just copy what QSC have done with theirs (though I'm not too keen on the handle obstructing the port), but I'd like some suggestions and experiences from those of you that have used these particular cabs. Are two handles enough? Easy to pick it up from them and lift on to a stage? If you could have an extra handle somewhere, where would it be?

TIA,
Chris

Title: Re: Sub handles - what do we like?
Post by: Tim McCulloch on April 27, 2017, 07:26:24 AM

Lift truck fork pockets.

Title: Re: Sub handles - what do we like?
Post by: Randy Pence on April 27, 2017, 08:14:09 AM

Corner casting for twistlocks

Title: Re: Sub handles - what do we like?
Post by: Nathan Riddle on April 27, 2017, 10:38:57 AM

Rotate the handles. The QSC handle rotation for their K & KW series is idiotic IMO.

Title: Re: Sub handles - what do we like?
Post by: Chris Grimshaw on April 27, 2017, 10:51:03 AM

Quote from: Tim McCulloch on April 27, 2017, 07:26:24 AM

Lift truck fork pockets.

One day, maybe. I'm a small fish at the moment so I have to move these myself.

Quote from: Randy Pence on April 27, 2017, 08:14:09 AM

Corner casting for twistlocks

Sorry Randy, you've lost me on this one. Do you mean put the SpeakOns on a panel that's set into an edge at 45 degrees?
That'd mean they can go flat against a wall without need for cable clearances, definitely useful.

Quote from: Nathan Riddle on April 27, 2017, 10:38:57 AM

Rotate the handles. The QSC handle rotation for their K & KW series is idiotic IMO.

Cool, thanks for the heads-up.
I can see your point - while they're being wheeled around the handle itself is vertical, which isn't great.

Chris

Title: Re: Sub handles - what do we like?
Post by: John Chiara on April 27, 2017, 11:37:41 AM

Quote from: Nathan Riddle on April 27, 2017, 10:38:57 AM

Rotate the handles. The QSC handle rotation for their K & KW series is idiotic IMO.

I agree. Wrenched a wrist more than a few times!

Title: Re: Sub handles - what do we like?
Post by: Mark Amber on April 27, 2017, 12:31:17 PM

Get it a wee bit higher than a KW 181. That way you can wheel it up to the back of an SUV or van and tip it in. You might even consider making some hooks for this task. That's how 90% of dry rental customers want it and how I want it for small wedding deliveries.


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Title: Re: Sub handles - what do we like?
Post by: Randy Pence on April 27, 2017, 07:28:38 PM

Quote from: Chris Grimshaw on April 27, 2017, 10:51:03 AM

Sorry Randy, you've lost me on this one. Do you mean put the SpeakOns on a panel that's set into an edge at 45 degrees?
That'd mean they can go flat against a wall without need for cable clearances, definitely useful.

I'll give you a hint: the boxes are made of steel