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Title: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: Dave Garoutte on May 25, 2016, 05:29:36 PM
I'm starting to shop for a generator.
Looking on ebay shows that the Honda EU3000 is about the same price (appx $2k) as two EU2000s with the jumper kit.
It seems that the flexibility of being able to use just one of the 2000s plus the increased power when linked would be better.
Any comments, experience?
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: Dennis Wiggins on May 25, 2016, 06:31:26 PM
http://www.popupportal.com/index.php?topic=61686.0

http://forum.solar-electric.com/discussion/2680/honda-eu3000i-vs-eu2000i

What are you planning to do with a single 2000? Personally, I'd get the 3000.

-Dennis
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: David Buckley on May 25, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
One generator is likely to be more reliable than the two generators, if your load is greater than one of the generators can provide, all things being equal.
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: g'bye, Dick Rees on May 25, 2016, 10:12:35 PM
I'm starting to shop for a generator.
Looking on ebay shows that the Honda EU3000 is about the same price (appx $2k) as two EU2000s with the jumper kit.
It seems that the flexibility of being able to use just one of the 2000s plus the increased power when linked would be better.
Any comments, experience?

Get the single larger unit.  I have both and the 3000 will run longer on a tank.  The yoking kit draws from the pair in series rather than parallel, so you'll be limited to run time by the smaller tank of the first unit in line.

You really don't want to spend your time tending to fueling generators and stopping the show to do so.  There is an outboard auxilliary fuel system, but it's not really approved for our type of use, much less another add-on to a cobbled together pair.

Two won't work.
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: Dave Garoutte on May 26, 2016, 02:05:28 PM
Get the single larger unit.  I have both and the 3000 will run longer on a tank.  The yoking kit draws from the pair in series rather than parallel, so you'll be limited to run time by the smaller tank of the first unit in line.

You really don't want to spend your time tending to fueling generators and stopping the show to do so.  There is an outboard auxilliary fuel system, but it's not really approved for our type of use, much less another add-on to a cobbled together pair.

Two won't work.

Well, there you go.
One it is.
Thanks Dick.
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: Frank DeWitt on May 26, 2016, 09:18:45 PM
a guy I know runs 4 small Hondas to run his RV and Antique electrical equipment desplay trailer all summer every summer.  He fuels them all from a external tank.  He loves the setup.
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: Mark Cadwallader on May 26, 2016, 11:38:06 PM
a guy I know runs 4 small Hondas to run his RV and Antique electrical equipment desplay trailer all summer every summer.  He fuels them all from a external tank.  He loves the setup.

Frank, are you referring to demos of historic electrical devices and machines?  Does he use each generator in isolation from the others, or are they all connected (electrically)?  I seem to recall that there are issues trying to use multiple generators in an audio context.
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: David Buckley on May 27, 2016, 04:31:50 AM
I've seen a quad Honda RV setup on YouTube (https://youtu.be/WmCHf-AemlU)
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: g'bye, Dick Rees on May 27, 2016, 08:27:30 AM
a guy I know runs 4 small Hondas to run his RV and Antique electrical equipment desplay trailer all summer every summer.  He fuels them all from a external tank.  He loves the setup.

Exposed fuel lines in a public setting (read "where we work") are a no-no.  It is false logic to compare his situation to Debbie and other sound people and irresponsible advice.
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: Frank DeWitt on May 27, 2016, 10:35:04 AM
Frank, are you referring to demos of historic electrical devices and machines?  Does he use each generator in isolation from the others, or are they all connected (electrically)?  I seem to recall that there are issues trying to use multiple generators in an audio context.

Yes,  A fascinating collection of old motors, fans, light fixtures, ETC.
The generators are the EU series and are in Parallel synchronized and working together.
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: Frank DeWitt on May 27, 2016, 10:36:37 AM
Exposed fuel lines in a public setting (read "where we work") are a no-no.  It is false logic to compare his situation to Debbie and other sound people and irresponsible advice.
  I didn't give any advice. That would be irresponsible.
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: Jonathan Johnson on May 27, 2016, 02:50:46 PM
  I didn't give any advice. That would be irresponsible.

Pedantic semantics.
Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: Frank DeWitt on May 27, 2016, 04:50:04 PM
Pedantic semantics.
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I think there is a huge difference.  I was giving information. Information allows others to make there own decisions.  The OP asked for experience This is one of my experiences with Honda eu generators.


Title: Re: 2-EU2000s or 1-EU3000?
Post by: Mike Sokol on May 27, 2016, 06:57:34 PM
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I think there is a huge difference.  I was giving information. Information allows others to make there own decisions.  The OP asked for experience This is one of my experiences with Honda eu generators.
Let's all behave. While there are things we could do in a zombie apocalypse situation, we have to be very careful about what we suggest to our less technically astute readers. Anything not code compliant discussed here much be clearly labeled as such.