Marsellus Fariss wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 15:34 |
Just one piece of gear not "digital consoles" or "all ###inger." For me it's the Alesis 3630 comp that pumps like Swartzenegger at an all night gym. Just the site of one makes me want to unplug it and set fire to it and dance around like Nero. The MEQ is pretty bad too. |
Andy Peters wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 16:42 | ||
The Midas Venice mixing console. And not because of how it sounds (which is actually real good), or because of its feature set vs cost (which is not very good), or because of its control layout (which stinks on ice). No, it's because shitty clubs can install one of these things and advertise, "WE HAVE A MIDAS!" and of course the rest of the rigs sucks in ways that have yet to be invented. Yes, of course I'm referring to all of those Ludlow St-area venues in NYC like Pianos and Arlenes. -a |
Nathan Lehouillier wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 17:13 |
PV SP2G and Black Widow 1801. Any homemade "sub" with EV 18B. 18B is not a sub driver boy's and girls. Nate KDS&L |
Andy Peters wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 17:42 | ||
The Midas Venice mixing console. And not because of how it sounds (which is actually real good), or because of its feature set vs cost (which is not very good), or because of its control layout (which stinks on ice). No, it's because shitty clubs can install one of these things and advertise, "WE HAVE A MIDAS!" and of course the rest of the rigs sucks in ways that have yet to be invented. Yes, of course I'm referring to all of those Ludlow St-area venues in NYC like Pianos and Arlenes. -a |
Marsellus Fariss wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 16:19 |
Here here! ANY SP2! Damn Peavey for building unkillable bad sounding gear that never ever ever dies but just hangs by chains in shitty clubs for decades pumping out crap! |
Nathan Lehouillier wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 18:50 |
I Jackal was the head liner. The Pa was 12x SP2G and 8x JBL 4*** SR cubs. |
Marsellus Fariss wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 17:19 | ||
Here here! ANY SP2! Damn Peavey for building unkillable bad sounding gear that never ever ever dies but just hangs by chains in shitty clubs for decades pumping out crap! Sorry, got a little worked up there. /Rant |
Andy Peters wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 16:42 | ||
The Midas Venice mixing console. And not because of how it sounds (which is actually real good), or because of its feature set vs cost (which is not very good), or because of its control layout (which stinks on ice). No, it's because shitty clubs can install one of these things and advertise, "WE HAVE A MIDAS!" and of course the rest of the rigs sucks in ways that have yet to be invented. Yes, of course I'm referring to all of those Ludlow St-area venues in NYC like Pianos and Arlenes. -a |
Phillip Graham wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 19:06 |
Yamaha GA series mixers. So lame, especially compared to Yamaha's normal trademark durability. |
Andy Peters wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 17:42 |
The Midas Venice mixing console. And not because of how it sounds (which is actually real good), or because of its feature set vs cost (which is not very good), or because of its control layout (which stinks on ice). No, it's because shitty clubs can install one of these things and advertise, "WE HAVE A MIDAS!" and of course the rest of the rigs sucks in ways that have yet to be invented. -a |
Darren Brown wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 21:00 |
Many may disagree with me; but I really don't like the KT Square One. |
Marsellus Fariss wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 16:34 |
Just one piece of gear not "digital consoles" or "all ###inger." For me it's the Alesis 3630 comp that pumps like Swartzenegger at an all night gym. Just the site of one makes me want to unplug it and set fire to it and dance around like Nero. The MEQ is pretty bad too. |
Phillip Graham wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 19:06 |
Yamaha GA series mixers. So lame, especially compared to Yamaha's normal trademark durability. |
Craig Leerman wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 20:19 |
I would vote for the Yamaha MG mixers as well. In one word, YUCK! |
Craig Leerman wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 22:19 |
I would vote for the Yamaha MG mixers as well. In one word, YUCK! |
Stuart Pendleton wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 02:34 |
Beta58. When I see one being used for vocals, I cringe. I would rather hear vocals through a SM57... |
Nathan Lehouillier wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 17:50 |
I wish I had a Pic. 4 years ago I supplied a mon rig for a fest Jackal was the head liner. The Pa was 12x SP2G and 8x JBL 4*** SR cubs. It was perfect for the chain saw! Nate KDS&L |
Andy Peters wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 22:23 |
The M3000, on the other hand, managed to outdo the Mackie SR48 in that it had crappy VCAs and the crappy bus/aux structure, in addition to having a flex-o-matic chassis. And the VCAs were the big selling point, as in trying to make it a big-boy mixer for those on a budget. -a |
Shane Presley wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 19:44 |
and oh, I hate moving large lifts.. sumner eventers, l-16's whatever, PITA |
Phillip Graham wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 19:06 |
Yamaha GA series mixers. So lame, especially compared to Yamaha's normal trademark durability. |
Adam Robinson wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 09:57 |
and that silver Behringer DI that's trying to be that blue BSS I own |
Lou Castellucci wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 14:58 |
I HATE JBL Vertec. Better Audio Through Marketing. There are so many better boxes out there. I feel like people have been brain washed or given such stupid discounts to use these things they have had no other choices, but sonicly Vertec pale in comparison to the rest of the pack. |
Matthew Haber wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 13:54 |
i have gone as far as bringing my own snake, o1v96, and set of JBLs for free just so i don't have to touch their crap. |
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And there's something even worse. Behringer has a two-channel active DI that's about the size of a matchbox. It is a hiss generator. It is unusable. Of course, what do you expect for a $30 two-channel active DI? |
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Shure PG 58. Look similar to SM 58, sound like crap. |
Charlie Zureki wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 13:43 |
Anything made by Kustom |
Evan Kirkendall wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 15:37 | ||
I was that guy once. Then I started carrying V4 settings on a thumb drive and convincing people that it was worth their time to upgrade. With some minor tweaking on the high end, they actually sound really good. The DP models sound great, and you really can't mess them up. As long as they are properly deployed, and I have enough of them, I know I'll have a good show. Sure, theres a lot more chance to have a bad VT rig then many others, but I now believe they can sound pretty damn good. Evan |
Andy Peters wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 14:59 | ||
See, you're just encouraging bad behavior. Charge what your gear is worth. -a |
Jason Tubbs wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 18:24 |
I hate the KF 650. Maybe the problem is deployment, but I have never mixed on a 650 rig that wasn't all honk and icepick. jt |
Gary Perrett wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 12:33 |
JBL TR225...just about every band around here uses those shit piles They discontinued them so fast I bet it sucked the air out of plant when they pulled the trigger... |
Stuart Pendleton wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 21:34 |
Beta58. When I see one being used for vocals, I cringe. I would rather hear vocals through a SM57... |
Brandon Blakeney wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 17:25 | ||||
Sometimes it is in your best interest to bring some extra gear even if your out a little money because your name is on the product, which is the SOUND QUALITY. |
Jeff Suchy wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 18:43 |
-ADAT M20 (been a long time, but the resentment linger. |
Brandon Blakeney wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 15:25 | ||||
Sometimes it is in your best interest to bring some extra gear even if your out a little money because your name is on the product, which is the SOUND QUALITY. You should always strive to get paid what you're worth, but sometimes a gig is a gig and money is better than twiddling your thumbs. I was once asked to run sound in my hometown for a band that claimed to have their own P.A. for an outdoor parking lot show. When I showed up they had a 16 channel console sitting on top of 3 Nady power amps sitting on the pavement in front of the stage with a pile of various cables. No EQ's, No Xovers, No Comps, No Efx, No roadcases/racks or anything.They also had a couple of yamaha club series speakers/monitors..etc... I walked up and they said here ya go! I was like you gotta be kidding me!!! So since it was a charity event I told them I would go get my own system and come back and I did....the moral of the story...is it worth it to you to use some of your own gear to avoid a nightmare |
Jason Tubbs wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 16:24 |
I hate the KF 650. Maybe the problem is deployment, but I have never mixed on a 650 rig that wasn't all honk and icepick. |
Andy Peters wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 19:23 | ||
The MG mixers are cheap, and are sold as cheap, so it's unreasonable to expect anything other than cheap. |
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The M3000, on the other hand, managed to outdo the Mackie SR48 in that it had crappy VCAs and the crappy bus/aux structure, in addition to having a flex-o-matic chassis. And the VCAs were the big selling point, as in trying to make it a big-boy mixer for those on a budget. |
Bob Leonard wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 16:17 | ||||
Evan, You just made my fucking day. |
Andy Peters wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 20:14 |
You were asked to do sound for a band for a charity event, and you were told that the band had their own PA which turned out to be a disaster. Did you know this band? Who hired you? I mean, for this sort of charity thing, it's better to just walk away -- because this is the exact sort of situation where some asshole will say, "Well, if you do this for free, there are all sorts of jobs waiting that pay well!" And everyone's heard that line of bullshit, and there ain't no pot of gold at the end of that rainbow. Nobody in attendance at that gig was ever going to hire you for anything. Most definitely not the band that owns a piece-of-shit PA that they probably think is great. So by walking, your name is definitely not on the gig, which will not go well regardless of what you bring in. -a |
Andy Peters wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 20:14 | ||||||
You were asked to do sound for a band for a charity event, and you were told that the band had their own PA which turned out to be a disaster. Did you know this band? Who hired you? I mean, for this sort of charity thing, it's better to just walk away -- because this is the exact sort of situation where some asshole will say, "Well, if you do this for free, there are all sorts of jobs waiting that pay well!" And everyone's heard that line of bullshit, and there ain't no pot of gold at the end of that rainbow. Nobody in attendance at that gig was ever going to hire you for anything. Most definitely not the band that owns a piece-of-shit PA that they probably think is great. So by walking, your name is definitely not on the gig, which will not go well regardless of what you bring in. -a |
jason misterka wrote on Sat, 30 January 2010 07:57 |
Has anyone said BSS Opel EQ? Jason |
Randy Frierson wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 21:42 |
i'm dating my self but the yamaha compressor, can't remember the model #..you all know which one... |
Moby (Mike Diack) wrote on Sat, 30 January 2010 23:40 |
Anything at all associated with DJs. M |
Toby Mills wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 21:05 |
Call me lazy but.... |
Toby Mills wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 20:05 |
- Any electric guitar that is not a Les Paul or a Strat. |
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- Any acoustic guitar that is not a Takamine, Martin or Taylor. |
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- Any piece of equipment that does not use phillips or flat head screws and requires a 'special bit' to dis-assemble 10 minutes before the doors open when it has blown the internal board mounted rail fuse which is an oddball rating. |
Andy Peters wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 22:38 | ||
My 1995 Lowden D25C is a MUCH better guitar than anything Takamine ever made, and it's seriously better than most Taylor or Martin instruments. -a |
John Norris wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 23:10 |
Nice 14th fret, John. |
Toby Mills wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 19:05 |
Call me lazy but.... - Any electric guitar that is not a Les Paul or a Strat. |
Ned Ward wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 23:39 | ||
Great guitars, but seems just a bit limiting. I'll keep both of my Teles, thank you. I'm sure the Gretsch fans will be OK as well. And by throwing every Les Paul and Strat in there, you're including the dreck from the mid-to-late 70's and early 80's, which were dark, dark times for both companies in terms of quality. |
Brian Wynn wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 22:29 |
Oh ya ANY guitar amp over 50 watts. You don't need that shit. Turn it down stupid! (me) But I need to get my tube's hot!! ( most guitar players) Your girlfriend just got my tube hot backstage. Now turn it down or go home. (me) |
Brian Wynn wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 20:26 |
The german's have there shit together on the XLR! |
Brian Wynn wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 23:26 |
1/4" CONNECTORS who's the dumb ass who invented a connector that has no locking device and every time you plug it in it creates a direct short in your signal chain. |
Brian Wynn wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 22:29 |
Oh ya ANY guitar amp over 50 watts. You don't need that shit. Turn it down stupid! (me) But I need to get my tube's hot!! ( most guitar players) Your girlfriend just got my tube hot backstage. Now turn it down or go home. (me) |
Toby Mills wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 19:05 |
- Any common electric guitar that is not a Les Paul, PRS, or a Strat. - Any acoustic guitar that is not a Larrivee, Taylor, or Martin. |
Jim McKeveny wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 06:59 |
Any rack with a BBE Sonic Maximizer has me questioning the whole rig.. |
Tony "T" Tissot wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 02:12 | ||
Liechtensteiners! |
Brian Wynn wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 23:26 |
Switchcraft XLR's Switchcraft XLR's suck ass too. Because I'm shure everyone carries a small flat head screw driver around with them on every gig. The german's have there shit together on the XLR! |
Jerry Turnbow wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 22:14 |
I guess the one I hate to see is that single LD condensor that some of these bluegrass groups try to use because it looks "retro", but they have no concept of the inverse square law and the need to move in and out to balance vocals, solos, etc. When someone from the audience complains that they can't hear the [<guitar><mandolin><fiddle><bass vocal> . . etc] (pick one) there's not a cotton-picking thing I can do about it. Disclaimer: I have seen one or two professional groups pull it off well, but they are few and far between, at least in my area. (Confessions from a control freak) |
Jerry Turnbow wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 21:14 |
I guess the one I hate to see is that single LD condensor that some of these bluegrass groups try to use because it looks "retro", but they have no concept of the inverse square law and the need to move in and out to balance vocals, solos, etc. When someone from the audience complains that they can't hear the [<guitar><mandolin><fiddle><bass vocal> . . etc] (pick one) there's not a cotton-picking thing I can do about it. Disclaimer: I have seen one or two professional groups pull it off well, but they are few and far between, at least in my area. (Confessions from a control freak) |
John Norris wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 01:02 | ||||
+1 for good Tele tone. Gotta be a better than average player to make the intonation sound right, but a Tele really makes a direct connection to the soul when played well. That was typical Scorcese genius to use Roy Buchanan's version of "Sweet Dreams" for the closing of "The Departed". |
Steve Hurt wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 00:05 |
Tele's rock! (I do have a 73 Les Paul Deluxe and a few Strats for those who can't handle a Tele) |
Caleb Dick wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 11:43 | ||
There, fixed it for ya Is that a Tak you're playing? (me) Sure is! How can you tell? (them) Just has that {crap} sound (me) Caleb |
Steve Hurt wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 00:05 |
Dick Rees wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 21:27 |
1. The one they insist on using is "real good" and cost $75 new. 2. They've lost the proprietary shock mount. 3. It travels loose rattling around in the banjo case, has a pronounced peak in the response around 6.3K.......and little else. BTDT |
Stavross (Sam Buck) wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 15:58 | ||
Their bass heads make decent pillows. |
Marsellus Fariss wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 14:10 |
So I asked what piece of gear you guys hate the most and some of you came up with the Venice and Vertec. Wow! I mean, that's all you could hate on? Did you guys never work in clubs? Did you start with Clair or Showco or something and never had to work with REALY crap gear? Never had to mix on a Behringer? Never had to lift an old school Yammy or Peavy or Hill board that was 200LBS and all of 24 inputs? Never had to deal with cheap mics with switches that people forget to turn on and you have to run up on stage in the middle of the show? Never had the knob on a Spirit come of in you hand? Venice and Vertec huh? Well I'm jealous. I'm kidding. This is hilarious. |
Paul Bell wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 09:22 |
Dave, I would somewhat agree with that. My dad ingrained upon me that it's a poor craftsman who blames his shortcomings on his tools. However, my dislike of anything Soundcraft comes from two different consoles dying at the wrong time on different events. Sometimes, it is the choice of poor tools that can sink a job. |
Dave Dermont wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 18:07 | ||
Yeah, but if it were not for all those smoked Soundcraft power supplies, would the practice of carrying a spare supply been so ingrained in the industry? You hate Soundcraft for a reason, and a very good one. Me, I look back fondly at what, at the time, were 'big' gigs that I did with a Soundcraft 1S. All 20 channels of it. The same goes for the 200b, 400B and Delta. I know a guy who hates Symetrix for the same reason you hate Soundcraft. I have a pile of old Symetrix things that still work well. So well, in fact, I prefer them to a lot of what is now considered "entry level" pro gear. I have also been in a few situations where I'd have gladly traded a body part for an SM58 or an OM5. I guess I have a bit of room between gear that's "not my first choice" and gear I "hate" than some other people. DD |
Jordan Wolf wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 16:50 |
I've got a few: 1. Large format Mackie SR-series "consoles". 2. That Alesis compressor (3630?). 3. Sonic Maximizer (when used over the whole mix). Try a sonic maximizer inserted on a subgroup of brass...might change your mind. At least try it ONCE so you know you don't like it. |
Marsellus Fariss wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 16:10 |
So I asked what piece of gear you guys hate the most and some of you came up with the Venice and Vertec. Wow! I mean, that's all you could hate on? Did you guys never work in clubs? Did you start with Clair or Showco or something and never had to work with REALY crap gear? Never had to mix on a Behringer? Never had to lift an old school Yammy or Peavy or Hill board that was 200LBS and all of 24 inputs? Never had to deal with cheap mics with switches that people forget to turn on and you have to run up on stage in the middle of the show? Never had the knob on a Spirit come of in you hand? Venice and Vertec huh? Well I'm jealous. I'm kidding. This is hilarious. |
Dick Rees wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 22:27 | ||
1. The one they insist on using is "real good" and cost $75 new. 2. They've lost the proprietary shock mount. 3. It travels loose rattling around in the banjo case, has a pronounced peak in the response around 6.3K.......and little else. BTDT |
Randy Frierson wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 00:42 |
i'm dating my self but the yamaha compressor, can't remember the model #..you all know which one... |
Jeff Knorr - Cobra Sound wrote on Wed, 03 February 2010 09:58 | ||||
This is why we carry multiple high quality LDC's with us on most of our gigs. It's also why we use high quality, fully horn-loaded trap boxes. We work with quite a few bluegrass groups from amateur to nationally touring professional groups and can make almost all of them sound good with the one mic technique. Garbage In = Garbage Out. But optimizing the system for GBF goes a loooong way. Jeff "Doesn't break the laws of physics but likes to bend them in his favor" |
Dick Rees wrote on Wed, 03 February 2010 10:08 |
Jeff.... I've highlighted the crucial phrase above. Of course I have a nice selection of LDC's with me. When they think theirs is "better" and will use only it, there's not much you can do except drop back 10 yards and punt. So it's a beat-to-heck, no-name POS rather than a nice Shure, AT or other name brand. Hey.....they like "Their Sound"...... |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- EAW MX8750 |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- 810 bass cabinets |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- Fender Twin |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- Cheap JBL wedges |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- Lab-Gruppen analogue crossovers |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- C-Audio amplifiers |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- Not Enough Rig For The Gig! |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- Not Enough Monitors For The Gig!! |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- Yamaha 01V |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- Yamaha DM2000 |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- Soundcraft Spirit (all of them!) |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- JBL Vertec |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- Meyer Line arrays |
Helge A. Bentsen wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 12:26 |
- Any event planner who doesn't understand that if something is impossible due to the laws of physics, then I'm not trying to be uncooperative and lazy, it's just not possible right now. Sure, go ahead and call my boss to complain about me being uncooperative because I can't make the sound from the PA stop right at the edge on the dance floor, when you want it loud up front... |
Dan Richardson wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 17:58 |
Alesis MEQ230. Stereo 30 bands, each band an octave wide. At least. |
Patrick Tracy wrote on Thu, 04 February 2010 23:35 | ||
Just happened to do this yesterday. Alesis M-EQ 230 frequency response, bypassed, zeroed, +12dB @ 1kHz, -12dB @ 1kHz: |
Kristian Johnsen wrote on Thu, 04 February 2010 17:00 | ||||
Patrick Could you show us the same with let's say a decent DBX unit? Very interesting post. |
Jason J Raboin wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 11:46 |
The list is very long so I'll stick to things that providers regularly try to make me use: Yamaha M7 Yamaha PM5D Shure SM58 Martin W8LM L"acoustics ARCS (as mains) Anything that needlessly adds a set of AD/DA conversions to the signal chain |
Brandon Blakeney wrote on Wed, 03 February 2010 02:17 | ||
I own a Mackie SR40.8, their reliability has come into question on several occasions. However they have a good bit of features and sound really good. Shame they aren't more rider friendly and road worthy Also A&H and Soundcraft owner |
Jason "JB" Browning wrote on Thu, 04 February 2010 06:45 | ||
Umm...totally disagree.... |
Steve Bunting wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 06:07 | ||||
Only if you have to rig them. |
Guy Johnson wrote on Sat, 06 February 2010 05:58 |
Things I like about the MEQ 230. --- Does what it says on the tin. --- Come on, peeps, the thing is cheap as chips, been out for ages, does its job well. what do you expect? BSS? KT? |
drewgandy wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 12:16 | ||
Several of the MEQ230s that I've monkey'd with had some issues with sliders. Namely, when you push them all the way down, they drop out of the circuit. It was usually on the bass side of things. Try it on one of yours with smaart running. See if the filter stays in all the way up and down. I applaud the engineering effort to make such a cheap piece of gear but the manufacturing tolerances didn't seem to be good enough to make a reasonably stable unit. Now, the graphs showing the 1k to be considerably off in frequency was a surprise though. I thought they used "laser trimmed resistors"? drew |
Chris Diener wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 09:28 | ||||
A "long long time ago" I had a pair of MEQ230s (hey, they were cheap and SMALL! ha) Always had a hard time ringing out monitors with them. One day I replaced them. Suddenly the monitors sounded fine, flat! And the replacements were Yamaha Q2031a! (not exactly well regarded either) I don't know what those filters were doing, but I'd love to see what the actual frequency response was when all the sliders were at "0". |
Kristian Johnsen wrote on Thu, 04 February 2010 17:00 | ||||
Patrick Could you show us the same with let's say a decent DBX unit? Very interesting post. |
Jason "JB" Browning wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 01:06 | ||||||
Ok, you kinda got me there. Took a MILO rig into Atlantic City a few years ago; local hands thought MILO was an acronym for "Meyer Involves Lots'o Overtime" JB |
Andy Peters wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 22:38 |
Both the Philips head and slot-head screws need to be banned outright and replaced by hex or Robertson drive. Nothing like a screw that's designed to slip when overtorqued. -a |
Mike Smith wrote on Thu, 28 January 2010 21:09 |
Speaking of Yamaha, those old Q2031 dual 1/3 octave EQs everybody used to use. Another case of higher expectations. More disappointment in less rack space. |