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Title: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Michael Gorecki on September 28, 2015, 09:35:56 PM
So I just got a couple Whirlwind Power packs with 50amp in and out and was wondering if anybody makes a cover for the output. It seems like a great thing to accidentally jab into your shin or knee.

Thanks in advance.

Michael Gorecki

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Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Jordan Wolf on September 29, 2015, 10:16:23 AM
Michael,

How deep is it?

You might just recess it in a road case.
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Jason Glass on September 29, 2015, 02:36:13 PM

http://www.mcmaster.com/#push-on-caps/=z5h6bw (http://www.mcmaster.com/#push-on-caps/=z5h6bw)


So I just got a couple Whirlwind Power packs with 50amp in and out and was wondering if anybody makes a cover for the output. It seems like a great thing to accidentally jab into your shin or knee.

Thanks in advance.

Michael Gorecki
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Ray Aberle on September 29, 2015, 04:09:59 PM
Michael,

Slightly off topic, but how much are the Whirlwind units? I've been a Motion Labs guy for -- well, about as long as I've needed rack power, but wondering how the price compares. I like some of the labeling that Whirlwind does, i.e. what leg each breaker is on.

-Ray
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Michael Gorecki on September 29, 2015, 05:28:29 PM
Jason, that's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks

Ray, I got a smoking deal on these through a company I work for. Based on what I paid I would assume retail on these is around $800~$1000 each. I'm not sure how that compares to pricing on any other brands.

They are great units. I'll be doing my first show with these on Saturday. But the craftsmanship and the turn around time are fantastic. They quoted me 4-6 weeks and showed up in less than 2 weeks.


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Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Ray Aberle on September 29, 2015, 09:18:42 PM
OK. Last pair of MotionLabs units I got, last summer, they were just under $500 each (L21-30 I/O, 4-20A circuits). Those were about $100 more then the last time I bought them, which was about 6 years previous!

I do like the look of their distros; esp the load metering. I got a couple of DimmerRack distros this past summer, but probably won't be purchasing anymore from there, so hoping to go up a few steps on the build quality/support and so on!

-Ray
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Lou Kohley on September 29, 2015, 10:01:04 PM
OK. Last pair of MotionLabs units I got, last summer, they were just under $500 each (L21-30 I/O, 4-20A circuits). Those were about $100 more then the last time I bought them, which was about 6 years previous!

I do like the look of their distros; esp the load metering. I got a couple of DimmerRack distros this past summer, but probably won't be purchasing anymore from there, so hoping to go up a few steps on the build quality/support and so on!

-Ray

Ray,
What didn't you like about the DimmerRack distro? Im in the market for a 50amp rack distro and was leaning toward them.

LOU
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Ray Aberle on September 29, 2015, 10:52:45 PM
Ray,
What didn't you like about the DimmerRack distro? Im in the market for a 50amp rack distro and was leaning toward them.

LOU

The price is good. Their customer service left a LOT to be desired. I don't like receiving defective product and then -- rather then the manufacturer fixing the problem (on their dime) I am expected to fix it for them.

(Yes, more details/photos/etc are available.)

Naturally, that makes me not want to purchase any product from them in the future. But that's just me. I have an expectation of receiving electrically sound product, from a manufacturer, and the attitude of "The show MUST go on, just FIX IT!" doesn't fly with me.

-Ray
Title: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Michael Gorecki on September 29, 2015, 10:56:50 PM
Ray, that's on par with what I paid for these units. However I have 50amp I/O which I believe is nearly $100 a connector. Copper keeps going up and increased regulations. Not much in R&D but they've gotta pay for those new machines some how.

-Michael


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Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Ray Aberle on September 29, 2015, 11:04:31 PM
Well, that is good to hear that they're on the same level as Motion Labs. I'm always copying good ideas from other companies in the area, and one just made a big investment into Whirlwind... which would be helpful for me as I'd like to become a dealer for Whirlwind in the future as well.

-Ray
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Philip Roberts on September 29, 2015, 11:41:05 PM
The price is good. Their customer service left a LOT to be desired. I don't like receiving defective product and then -- rather then the manufacturer fixing the problem (on their dime) I am expected to fix it for them.

(Yes, more details/photos/etc are available.)

Naturally, that makes me not want to purchase any product from them in the future. But that's just me. I have an expectation of receiving electrically sound product, from a manufacturer, and the attitude of "The show MUST go on, just FIX IT!" doesn't fly with me.

-Ray
I'll second Ray's experience with them. A soca breakout I received with mis wired pairs came back with a heat shrieked inline splice.

Philip
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Lou Kohley on September 30, 2015, 01:57:54 AM
I'll second Ray's experience with them. A soca breakout I received with mis wired pairs came back with a heat shrieked inline splice.

Philip

Noted. I had a feeling the prices were too good. I'll have to go motion labs or something of equal quality.

Thanks,
LOU
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: John Fruits on September 30, 2015, 05:35:52 AM
Something I have wondered about, Lex, Motion Labs, InduElectric and Whirlwind are all ul/etl listed, but nowhere on the website does dimmer rack state that they are.  That could be important for some AHJ.
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Spenser Hamilton on September 30, 2015, 10:34:47 AM
OK. Last pair of MotionLabs units I got, last summer, they were just under $500 each (L21-30 I/O, 4-20A circuits). Those were about $100 more then the last time I bought them, which was about 6 years previous!

I do like the look of their distros; esp the load metering. I got a couple of DimmerRack distros this past summer, but probably won't be purchasing anymore from there, so hoping to go up a few steps on the build quality/support and so on!

-Ray

Thanks for the heads up Ray!
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Doug Fowler on September 30, 2015, 03:59:23 PM
The price is good. Their customer service left a LOT to be desired. I don't like receiving defective product and then -- rather then the manufacturer fixing the problem (on their dime) I am expected to fix it for them.

(Yes, more details/photos/etc are available.)

Naturally, that makes me not want to purchase any product from them in the future. But that's just me. I have an expectation of receiving electrically sound product, from a manufacturer, and the attitude of "The show MUST go on, just FIX IT!" doesn't fly with me.

-Ray

I had a terse exchange with info at dimmerrack.com, and also felt customer service is an afterthought.

There was no real name on the email, with a couple of unanswered questions.

FWIW
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Stephen Swaffer on October 01, 2015, 10:28:26 AM

Copper keeps going up ....

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s.

Don't accept THAT excuse.  I buy copper wire all of the time.  Copper scrap prices have dropped to 50% of what they were a couple years ago-and wire prices keep dropped.  12-2 NM has dropped 15% in the last 60 days.
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Michael Gorecki on October 04, 2015, 11:06:23 AM
I got to use my power packs last night. Everything worked like a charm. Click click click. Clean power.


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Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Keith Broughton on October 04, 2015, 01:27:05 PM
I got to use my power packs last night. Everything worked like a charm. Click click click. Clean power.


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It's always nice when things work the way they should :)
Title: Re: Whirlwind Power Pack
Post by: Michael Gorecki on October 04, 2015, 07:40:33 PM
Exactly! The last couple things I've picked up have been total duds. So it was a bit of a relief


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