Denny Jagard wrote on Sun, 26 March 2006 21:48 |
Funny you mentioned that, since I want one. And somewhere I read (probably an obsolete post) that the gate feature was not available as a plug in. Thanks for that tip. denny |
Denny Jagard wrote on Tue, 28 March 2006 19:26 |
Cool. I ordered one today, as well as an SPL TD4... those drums are gonna sound nice. Also I can't wait to try it to duck the keyboards a little when the lead vocal is present. |
Denny Jagard wrote on Tue, 28 March 2006 20:28 |
Thanks for the tip Johnny. I am a little concerned that adding attack to the toms with the SPL will add too much attack to the cymbals, so I assume I need a gate first... I suppose that is a big issue with the high hat if I use the SPL on the snare. Your thoughts? thanks, denny |
Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Mon, 27 March 2006 15:04 |
Yes, it really cures clicking. The 333 microsecond Look Ahead window that helps the G4 predict when to open means that your lowest frequency signals will have a certain amount of silent ramping-up envelope synthesized for them at the gate open event. 333 microseconds isn't long enough to be able to encompass your entire LF wavefront and preserve the low level parts of the attack. For instance, a 31 Hz sine wave takes about 2000 microseconds to ramp a third of the way up (assuming your threshold is set there.) That means your extreme LF sine wave signals will have a smooth but abbreviated attack envelope at the beginning--the original will NOT be preserved. Lucky for us a 5-string bass guitar pluck is a steeper, quicker envelope than a sine wave and is passed in satisfying fullness by the G4. They'll take my G4 from my cold dead hands. -Bink |
Denny Jagard wrote on Tue, 28 March 2006 21:25 |
I may try that, much as I love the sound of the sm98s when the cymbals aren't ringing. I have used OM7s for that same purpose on vocals, but there is a bit of a tradeoff in the sound quality. But sometimes it's worthwhile to lose a little vocal quality in order to lose a lot of cymbal bleed. |
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...If my calculator's workin': If the G4 has a rise time of 333us, and a 31Hz signal ramps up 33% of the way in 2000us, then the G4's rise time is 16.65% of 33% of the 31Hz's rise time, or 5.55% of the total rise time. Not much effect here. As to a 3.1kHz click of a kick, 1/3 of the rise time will be 200us, in which case the 333us would take a big chunk out. This does not seem to be the case, so maybe Andy can tell us where we are off. |
Denny Jagard wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 20:28 |
I've used the OM6 and OM7 quite a bit, more as a singer than an engineer. I think that if you AB it with an SM58, the 58 sounds more open, more natural. But it is amazing how the Audix mics kill drum bleed, and are great if you get a singer who stays right on mic. Another Audix drawback is it seems they don't hold up as well over time... I feel like all my OM7s need new capsules, while my Shures sound nearly the same after 10 years. Right now I'm using Sennheiser 935s, which sound cleaner than SM58s in the high end, and have a tighter low mid. cheers, denny |
John Roberts {JR} wrote on Tue, 28 September 2010 10:04 |
I may be a little contrarian about this but I see no problem with posting comments to an old thread when it makes sense to. it saves some of us from answering the same questions over and over, and keeps the posts in one place for later searchers to find. JR |
Michael J Brown wrote on Tue, 28 September 2010 22:31 | ||
+1 Keeps stuff organized, makes the search more coherent and useful... 100x better than a new thread.... Just don't try to reply/argue with the past. |