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Title: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: brian maddox on September 04, 2012, 11:50:23 PM
subject says it all.  those headset mics with the ear pieces are cool.  anybody know what those are?
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Henry Cohen on September 05, 2012, 09:05:16 AM
subject says it all.  those headset mics with the ear pieces are cool.  anybody know what those are?

Which ones: On DNC talent or network news talent?
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Mac Kerr on September 05, 2012, 09:35:47 AM
subject says it all.  those headset mics with the ear pieces are cool.  anybody know what those are?

I picture might be nice. I'm not watching the political conventions.

Mac
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: brian maddox on September 05, 2012, 09:49:33 AM
Which ones: On DNC talent or network news talent?

Network news talent.  They've got some kind of IEM Looking ear pieces along with the mic.  They're black but very low profile.  I don't think I've ever seen anything like them before...
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: brian maddox on September 05, 2012, 10:30:30 AM
I picture might be nice. I'm not watching the political conventions.

Mac

i'm looking around to see if i can find a pic.  my tv doesn't do screenshots...  :)
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Mac Kerr on September 05, 2012, 11:51:08 AM
Network news talent.  They've got some kind of IEM Looking ear pieces along with the mic.  They're black but very low profile.  I don't think I've ever seen anything like them before...

Without a picture I don't know for sure, but DPA sells a version of their HS mics with one or two IFB earpieces.

Mac
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Pete Erskine on September 05, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
subject says it all.  those headset mics with the ear pieces are cool.  anybody know what those are?

See if these are the ones.  I have several with custom molds for each ear and the mic is not so noise cancelling that it sounds bad.  Could be used on air.


http://www.phonak-communications.com/en/products/hearing-protection/serenity-spc/ (http://www.phonak-communications.com/en/products/hearing-protection/serenity-spc/)
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Geri O'Neil on September 05, 2012, 12:12:42 PM
See if these are the ones.  I have several with custom molds for each ear and the mic is not so noise cancelling that it sounds bad.  Could be used on air.


http://www.phonak-communications.com/en/products/hearing-protection/serenity-spc/ (http://www.phonak-communications.com/en/products/hearing-protection/serenity-spc/)

Those units do look a lot like the headset seen on some network talent heads this week. From what little I've seen, anyway (I was flipping channels, and the headsets caught my eye, had to look).

Geri O
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Justice C. Bigler on September 05, 2012, 02:24:09 PM
See if these are the ones.  I have several with custom molds for each ear and the mic is not so noise cancelling that it sounds bad.  Could be used on air.


http://www.phonak-communications.com/en/products/hearing-protection/serenity-spc/ (http://www.phonak-communications.com/en/products/hearing-protection/serenity-spc/)

I've seen the headsets that the news anchors are wearing and was wondering the same thing. This looks similar, but not quite it.
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Curt Sorensen on September 05, 2012, 04:21:26 PM
Mac wrote:
DPA sells a version of their HS mics with one or two IFB earpieces.

Couldn't find any on their website, any chance you have a link, please?
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Mac Kerr on September 05, 2012, 06:13:58 PM
Mac wrote:
DPA sells a version of their HS mics with one or two IFB earpieces.

Couldn't find any on their website, any chance you have a link, please?

I don't have a link. I have seen and used the mics, and at one point I'm sure I saw a web page, but I have never found that web page.

I assume it is a special order, and you should contact DPA.

Mac
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Jens Palm Bacher on September 05, 2012, 07:03:40 PM
I don't have a link. I have seen and used the mics, and at one point I'm sure I saw a web page, but I have never found that web page.

I assume it is a special order, and you should contact DPA.

Mac
I've never heard about such a solution from DPA, but i'm willing to call the HQ and ask tomorrow.

Are you certain you aren't thinking of this thing from Countryman: http://www.countryman.com/store/product_em6.asp
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Mac Kerr on September 05, 2012, 07:09:30 PM
I've never heard about such a solution from DPA, but i'm willing to call the HQ and ask tomorrow.

Are you certain you aren't thinking of this thing from Countryman: http://www.countryman.com/store/product_em6.asp

I am certain. I have used them. I just don't know how to find info on them. Several broadcast stage managers have replaced their Plantronics earsets with them, plugged into Telex BTR800 wireless comms. I had 2 people on a show recently who owned them. They were close to $800 with all the accessories and adapters to various comm systems.

I think they bought them from John Arenas at ATK Versacom.

Mac
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Curtis H List (Too Tall) on September 05, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
subject says it all.  those headset mics with the ear pieces are cool.  anybody know what those are?

I don't know who makes them, but I noticed something.
I watched the first night on Public TV last night. The sound from the arena was blasting the voices from the Talking heads. It was like trying to talk on a basketball floor while the crowd is screaming their heads off.
The bleed is tremendous.

Long story, short I am listening to the convention tonight and they have the problem solved. I am not sure how? For all I know they could have closed a window in the sky box, but perhaps they tried a new system.
Crown Differode? Does anyone still use those?
In the 90s they were standard issue for singing drummers and deaf guitar players.
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Stefan Maerz on September 06, 2012, 10:49:18 AM
A question related to the RNC/DNC...The podium mics the RNC and DNC used both seemed to have two microphones - one placed behind the other.

The placement of the second mic is completely hidden behind the front mic when viewed from the main TV camera.





Here is a picture of the side, where the second mic is clearly seen:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28110525/Misc/clinton1.jpg

And one out front, where the second mic is hidden:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28110525/Misc/clinton2.jpg




What is the point of the secondary mic? Both the RNC and DNC did this, is it a redundancy measure?
Title: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Patrick Moore on September 06, 2012, 11:34:18 AM
Looks like those are Schoeps microphones in their extension arm.  I did a DNC streaming party here in Charlotte on Tuesday and had the stream up on a 9x12 screen with external audio.  The podium mic sounded fantastic, even on the lowest quality stream from YouTube.

Not sure why they have two microphones, maybe one for shorter people and the other for talls?  Either that or some kind of strangely positioned MidSide pair?
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: brian maddox on September 06, 2012, 11:53:16 AM
A question related to the RNC/DNC...The podium mics the RNC and DNC used both seemed to have two microphones - one placed behind the other.

The placement of the second mic is completely hidden behind the front mic when viewed from the main TV camera.

What is the point of the secondary mic? Both the RNC and DNC did this, is it a redundancy measure?

it's redundancy.  the Shoeps rig has pretty much become standard for all high profile live TV events, at least in the US.  the Grammys, Oscars, etc.  all use the same rig.

i did notice how cleverly they had positioned it so it hides the second mic from the Money Camera angle.  Very nice.
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Ken Ferrel on September 06, 2012, 11:18:29 PM
I am certain. I have used them. I just don't know how to find info on them.

Guessing it is this: http://www.sensaphonics.com/?p=345 (http://www.sensaphonics.com/?p=345)
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Mac Kerr on September 07, 2012, 01:17:23 AM
Guessing it is this: http://www.sensaphonics.com/?p=345 (http://www.sensaphonics.com/?p=345)

I still don't know what they used at the convention, but since you quoted me I assume you are telling me that what I have used is the sensaphonics. I assure you it is not.

Mac
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Mark Long on September 07, 2012, 09:05:29 AM
The ear buds that many of them have on CBS look like Future Sonics Atrios right down to the blue ring.

http://www.mcssl.com/store/futuresonics/atrio-model-m5-black-professional-earphones (http://www.mcssl.com/store/futuresonics/atrio-model-m5-black-professional-earphones)
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Cameron Stuckey on September 07, 2012, 12:19:45 PM
Not sure why they have two microphones, maybe one for shorter people and the other for talls?

As I understand it, the mic on top is a cardioid(or super) and the bottom is an omni. They can then use both mic for the broadcast depending on the speaker. If you saw Clinton he was moving all around the place, but the audio was extremely consistant, which you cannot get from a cardioid. Hiding them vertically is a great solution for the camera angle.
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Pete Erskine on September 07, 2012, 05:00:40 PM
subject says it all.  those headset mics with the ear pieces are cool.  anybody know what those are?

What network?
Which talent?

I checked with NBC and they didn't use anything special.
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Pete Erskine on September 07, 2012, 06:28:26 PM
subject says it all.  those headset mics with the ear pieces are cool.  anybody know what those are?

According to NBC Engineering NBC / Brian Williams was running with the Countryman Model # E6XDW5B1LS E6 Directional Earset Microphone. And a standard IFB in ear mold.
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: brian maddox on September 07, 2012, 10:13:20 PM
According to NBC Engineering NBC / Brian Williams was running with the Countryman Model # E6XDW5B1LS E6 Directional Earset Microphone. And a standard IFB in ear mold.

Should have been more specific. CNN is the network I was watching. Still haven't figured out what it was. Looked like a two ear IEM earpieces with some sort of two ear boom mic with the bar wrapping around the back of the head. Everyone used them including guest commentators although the standard on air talent systems looked cleaner as if they had customized them. It did look a but like maybe a dpa headset coupled with some future sonics ears. 
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: Sheldon Harris on September 12, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
Should have been more specific. CNN is the network I was watching. Still haven't figured out what it was. Looked like a two ear IEM earpieces with some sort of two ear boom mic with the bar wrapping around the back of the head. Everyone used them including guest commentators although the standard on air talent systems looked cleaner as if they had customized them. It did look a but like maybe a dpa headset coupled with some future sonics ears.

are you refering to the ones worn by anderson cooper? i am vaguely remembering at that time he had three guests with the same set up (you can obviosly here a lot of background noise but the audio was spot on clean and accurate from the primary sources). 

if you find out let me know: i need to pick up a few of those.
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: John Sulek on September 14, 2012, 12:12:28 AM
Looks like those are Schoeps microphones in their extension arm.  I did a DNC streaming party here in Charlotte on Tuesday and had the stream up on a 9x12 screen with external audio.  The podium mic sounded fantastic, even on the lowest quality stream from YouTube.

Not sure why they have two microphones, maybe one for shorter people and the other for talls?  Either that or some kind of strangely positioned MidSide pair?
One may be a cardiod and the other a wide cardiod ( or even omni ) for when there is a group of folks talking. Oops this point has already been made.
Title: Re: what are those cool headsets they're using at the DNC
Post by: brian maddox on September 14, 2012, 03:50:54 PM

are you refering to the ones worn by anderson cooper? i am vaguely remembering at that time he had three guests with the same set up (you can obviosly here a lot of background noise but the audio was spot on clean and accurate from the primary sources). 

if you find out let me know: i need to pick up a few of those.

i am.  and yeah, i'm still in the dark as to what those are...