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Author Topic: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260  (Read 35000 times)

John Roberts {JR}

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Re: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260
« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2007, 02:35:13 pm »

I will only speak for myself, I have always been apprehensive about posting specific measurements of another manufacturer's product, while in the past I have privately advised others where the skeletons are hiding and sometimes made indirect references. We used to routinely blow up competitors amplifiers unintentionally (mostly) in the course of bench testing, so data from those units are suspect. While a DSP is not likely to be melted by testing, who knows what can occur with only one piece of gear, not to mention many units being evaluated are often early production units, with perhaps unpolished designs.

I have always (tried) to follow the unwritten rule about not openly attacking competitors. It gives them free advertising, and your comments will always be suspect. What's worse if they advertise more than you do, they can bury you with frequency of their message. In advertising it isn't always about being right. Perception is the reality. I had to be careful sometimes when making advertising claims because people often wouldn't believe the truth. If I claimed to be more than just good for the money they think I was lying.

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Re: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260
« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2007, 03:28:17 pm »

James Duncan wrote on Sat, 14 April 2007 07:50

I am hoping to find something in this market that has at least 3 inputs so I can run stereo to the tops and then run an aux-fed sub mix into the 3rd input.

It appears that the Behringer has this unit, but when looking closer, the 3rd input is the one that is used for the reference mic to do the auto-aligning function. I am not sure if this is a valuable feature or not, but it sure would have been more valuable (to me, at least) if there was a dedicated reference mic input.

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All 3 inputs are usable..I use a DCX for 3 biamped monitor mixes and I just copied the setting to all 3 channels..all the same.
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Re: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260
« Reply #52 on: April 17, 2007, 04:26:37 pm »

Bennett, I'm fairly certain that this wouldn't apply to the DR260 given its extra horsepower - I presume a different chipset is used with the 260 and the other higher end DR's.  Hopefully somebody with a DRPA on hand can Smaart it and see what happens as you keep adding eq's and crossovers to place some stress load on the device.   BTW I hope I haven't unintentionally created some controversy over this, I was just blindly chiming in, but it seems this has created considerable interest....

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Re: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260
« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2007, 07:42:22 pm »

Jeff Babcock wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 13:26

 I presume a different chipset is used with the 260 and the other higher end DR's.


I really doubt it ... why change processors?  The tools are expensive, the man-years spent learning the tools and the processors even more so.  They may use a more-powerful version of a processor in the higher-end versions (where more CPU horsepower and more I/O is required) but you can bet that it's the same processor family.

(Somebody open their DriveRacks and prove me wrong.)

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Re: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260
« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2007, 08:24:14 pm »

Or probably just more of the same DSPs inside.....
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Re: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2007, 08:46:57 pm »

Jens Droessler wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 19:24

Or probably just more of the same DSPs inside.....


Not my guess...

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Re: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260
« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2007, 09:42:43 am »

John Chiara wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 15:28

James Duncan wrote on Sat, 14 April 2007 07:50

I am hoping to find something in this market that has at least 3 inputs so I can run stereo to the tops and then run an aux-fed sub mix into the 3rd input.

It appears that the Behringer has this unit, but when looking closer, the 3rd input is the one that is used for the reference mic to do the auto-aligning function. I am not sure if this is a valuable feature or not, but it sure would have been more valuable (to me, at least) if there was a dedicated reference mic input.

All 3 inputs are usable..I use a DCX for 3 biamped monitor mixes and I just copied the setting to all 3 channels..all the same.


After using a DCX2496 last weekend, I have been thinking about this. My rack is set up for aux fed sub, with a Raxxess S16U panel on the back having two XLRs from the main outs of my Mackie 1402, and one XLR from Aux2. This was set up since the subs I use have a variable xover, and my tops (Yorkville NX55P) has a switchable 100Hz cutoff.

If I use this with the DCX2496, it should work well. However, after giving it more thought....and please remember, I am just a DJ.....

In a situation where you wish to run with aux fed sub, and have one channel that is getting full range - for a remote speaker, for example - that won't be possible. You can sum A+B, A+C, or B+C, but the DCX2496 does not let you sum A+B+C, which is what you would need to do for a full range remote speaker.

Is this correct?
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Re: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260
« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2007, 10:02:14 am »

When you are running subs on an aux all three inputs to the DCX are full range: full range Left, full range Right, and full range Aux. Its inside the DSP where filtering takes place, so you would sum A+B inside the box, giving you an extra virtual mono full range input to route for your remote speaker.

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Re: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260
« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2007, 12:22:46 pm »

Joe Larsen wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 10:02

When you are running subs on an aux all three inputs to the DCX are full range: full range Left, full range Right, and full range Aux. Its inside the DSP where filtering takes place, so you would sum A+B inside the box, giving you an extra virtual mono full range input to route for your remote speaker.

Joe:

Interesting. That makes sense. Perhaps I just did not think it through far enough the first time....

Thanks! Guess this is really a non-issue....  Razz

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Re: Peavey VSX 26 vs. Behringer DCX2496 vs. DR260
« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2007, 12:24:22 pm »

Speaking of the Peavey VSX 26 - I checked the Peavey web site, and the latest version of the control software is from mid-2006, and still listed as "beta".

Is this a dead project? Have they dropped development? Seems like a long time for something that even Behringer was able to ship and upgrade many times......
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