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Steve Devino

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Re: EAW JF80z
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2007, 06:00:12 pm »

W. Mark Hellinger wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 16:42



If you're looking at JF-80's or 100's cause you actually have the band and venues that are suitable for that PA, then all will be fine.  If you're looking at JF-80's or 100's 'cause that's all the bigger speakers you want to lug around... I've found that don't work if any of the other stuff isn't throttled down to match.



I think this is a good summary. In the case of the rock musicals I use them for there is no stage volume since all the instruments are electronic and they all go through the PA.   If there were any stage volume I would have a tough time getting the JF80's even heard.

My total room volume is about 85dB SPL at the loudest point in the room. This is appropriate for a rock musical, but not very much for a rock concert. But it could be a reasonable volume for a more acoustic act.

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Re: EAW JF80z
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2007, 06:01:24 pm »

Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 16:29

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Different apps. when I use six. Each speaker is hung about 10 feet above a small section of audience. The venue is 3/4 surround and there is a grid above the entire audience. Each speaker is set to just provide the SPL needed and there is very little coverage overlap.  

The Godspell app only used 2 speakers plus subs (different room). The room had a 9 foot high ceiling and was 40 feet wide. The room was also fairly dead. The sound pressure level was fine for such a small venue.

If you pay close attention to my app you can see that they wer basically used as fills but there were no mains.


Okay, I'm picturing it now. Yeah, basically fills.

I've done a lot of so-called corporate theater in large hotel and convention spaces where I hang single boxes above audience zones. It works very well to keep energy where needed, though the LF wrapping around behind a box mid-house arrives sooner at the back of some people's heads than the LF from 'their' box in front of them. With a small box like JF80 your LF wraparound is much less of a problem. There's just not enough low extension for it to come into play.  Twisted Evil

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Plus the speakers are setup in a ring so there is no one behind them.

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Re: EAW JF80z
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2007, 08:06:29 pm »

Thanks for the clarification.  Our entire group goes direct through the board - our stage sound is limited to singing and the sound of sticks hitting electronic drum pads.  We like this setup for many reasons, one that we don't have to be very loud to sound good in the small venues we play.

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Re: EAW JF80z
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2007, 08:30:50 pm »

Including the drummer?
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Re: EAW JF80z
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2007, 09:18:29 pm »

W. Mark Hellinger wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 19:30

Including the drummer?


Mike Wohleking wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 19:06

 and the sound of sticks hitting electronic drum pads.



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Re: EAW JF80z
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2007, 10:33:22 pm »

Dan Brown wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 18:18

W. Mark Hellinger wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 19:30

Including the drummer?


Mike Wohleking wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 19:06

 and the sound of sticks hitting electronic drum pads.



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Pictures... I need pictures.

Surely you don't expect me to read the text... I grew up "reading" comic books.

Ok... yes... a 100% electronic band could possibly make R&R "work" through JF-80's... I guess...

I dated a gal once who thought The Carpenters were R&R.  I took her to an AC/DC & Aerosmith concert in 1974 (or was it Aerosmith and Kiss... for some reason, I don't remember).  She walked out part way through the first song.  I stayed for the whole concert (and then some).  Needless to say, we didn't hit it off so well after that.
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Re: EAW JF80z
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2007, 01:02:32 pm »

> we didn't hit it off so well after that.
Just as well. Now you have Liz.
Chris. Laughing
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Re: EAW JF80z
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2007, 02:49:34 pm »

Chris Hindle wrote on Mon, 05 February 2007 10:02

> we didn't hit it off so well after that.
Just as well. Now you have Liz.
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Admittedly that's worked out better than I could have ever planned.  Only one thing about our tastes in music:  Liz's vinyl collection was virtually the same as mine when we met... so when we got hitched and set-up housekeeping together... what to do with 2 copies of most everything?  Turns out it wasn't a problem... most of my vinyl was pretty well partied out (warped, scratched, dusty, wax splattered aross it, etc...) where-as Liz's copies were nice.  We kept her nice stuff, yard-sailed mine.

Of-course, I knew she was one-of-a-kind when we first met.  I play bass, and she actually thought that was pretty cool... agreed to go on a date even after finding that out about me. Very Happy
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