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[Tim McCulloch]

Steven Leonard wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 20:59

Loren Aguey wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 17:42 I wont give you crap for the monster cable thing. But I think I do have an issue,(or at least politely call BS) with a claim that a 1/4" patch cord from any manufacturer has a good or bad "sound" to it. Tell that to Bruce Swedien!

Well, that pesky restraining order.....

[Loren Aguey]

Steven Leonard wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 18:59

Loren Aguey wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 17:42 I wont give you crap for the monster cable thing. But I think I do have an issue,(or at least politely call BS) with a claim that a 1/4" patch cord from any manufacturer has a good or bad "sound" to it. Tell that to Bruce Swedien!

Are you referring to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nds6kju1fw8

I still don't buy it. He has a very impressive repertoire and I know he knows what he's talking about but I can't bring myself to believe that monster cables sound better.

I wonder if he thinks $140 monster hdmi cables look and sound better too?  

[Marsellus Fariss]

John Roberts  {JR} wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 20:43

Marsellus Fariss wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 20:20 The objection was that a 1/4 patch cable from any manufacturer could have a "good or bad sound to it". I disagree that this cannot be possible in general. Excluding specific applications and assuming they all have identical impedance and capacitance is a different scenario. Also, I'll never regret buying HD280's. Guitar cables are a special case where the high source impedance of the guitar pickups interact with the cable capacitance. If a given cable sounds better or worse to you it is because of your subjective opinion of the different frequency response. Not better or worse, per se, just different, but most purpose designed guitar cables aim for modest/low capacitance. Another example where transducers interact with cable capacitance was record player phono cartridges. Anybody old enough to remember records? So yes "in general" wire does not have a sound character, but depending on the application there can be secondary effects due to resistance, capacitance, or inductance. JR

Well done. I completely agree.

Got quite a record collection actually. One day my audio obsession will wander to tables and cartridges I'm sure but I've not listened to them yet.  

[Marsellus Fariss]

Loren Aguey wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 21:19

Steven Leonard wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 18:59 Loren Aguey wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 17:42 I wont give you crap for the monster cable thing. But I think I do have an issue,(or at least politely call BS) with a claim that a 1/4" patch cord from any manufacturer has a good or bad "sound" to it. Tell that to Bruce Swedien! Are you referring to this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nds6kju1fw8 I still don't buy it. He has a very impressive repertoire and I know he knows what he's talking about but I can't bring myself to believe that monster cables sound better. I wonder if he thinks $140 monster hdmi cables look and sound better too?

I'm with you I've not experienced his "revelation." I think maybe he "bought the car".

[Lester Moran]

Zero regrets?

Countryman 85s.

Old Beyer/K&M Stands.

B57As.

M88s.

PCM70s, TC2290s, and SPX990s.

Whirlwind Mass fans for consoles.

A kit of '65 red-sparkle Rogers.

One very durable Roland FP-1.

Les

[Rick Stansby]

Marsellus Fariss wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 19:29

Loren Aguey wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 21:19 Steven Leonard wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 18:59 Loren Aguey wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 17:42 I wont give you crap for the monster cable thing. But I think I do have an issue,(or at least politely call BS) with a claim that a 1/4" patch cord from any manufacturer has a good or bad "sound" to it. Tell that to Bruce Swedien! Are you referring to this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nds6kju1fw8 I still don't buy it. He has a very impressive repertoire and I know he knows what he's talking about but I can't bring myself to believe that monster cables sound better. I wonder if he thinks $140 monster hdmi cables look and sound better too?   I'm with you I've not experienced his "revelation." I think maybe he "bought the car".

"What really got me excited...is the fact that my imagination can be part of the music."  I think he nailed it on the head, the difference in sound is in his imagination.

[Alan Roberts]

Hands down: APB DynaSonics ProRack-House

[Tom Reid]

My business suits from Mens Warehouse.
Retainer for my Illinois lawyer.
SRX728s
Trojans

[John Sulek]

Loren Aguey wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 22:19

Steven Leonard wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 18:59 Loren Aguey wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 17:42 I wont give you crap for the monster cable thing. But I think I do have an issue,(or at least politely call BS) with a claim that a 1/4" patch cord from any manufacturer has a good or bad "sound" to it. Tell that to Bruce Swedien! Are you referring to this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nds6kju1fw8 I still don't buy it. He has a very impressive repertoire and I know he knows what he's talking about but I can't bring myself to believe that monster cables sound better. I wonder if he thinks $140 monster hdmi cables look and sound better too?

On a side note...the 1/4" plug that Monster used is slightly oversized compared to Switchcraft/Neutrik. After you switch back from the Monster stuff...you get to spend some quality time replacing all the 1/4" jacks that now have loose contacts.
Fun times!

Cheers,
John

[Mark Dawson]

I have a great purchases.

- Lab.Gruppen fp6400. Thousands of hours and still look brand new
- Mackie SRM450. Far more financial return than the bigger gear
- The green handcart.  It's more than just a friend.
- Heineken
- Steve and Kerry