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Too Tall (Curtis H. List)

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Re: Albany Monitor Wedge Shootout
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2006, 06:37:22 PM »

Hey Bennett,

Are you planning on doing any testing with an analyzer?
If so who will run the test gear?

In any case you already have quite a few monitors. Even without testing I don’t know that you can do justice to that many boxes in a single day.

My other comment is the summer months are the busiest for sound gigs. Doing this after Labor Day will allow some people to attend that can not because of their work load.

Good Luck


Bennett Prescott wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 14:02

I'm putting together a monitor wedge shootout at John Chiara's club in Troy, and I'm hoping to gauge here what would be a good time for it. I'd like to do it within the 4-6 weeks. Currently available dates for the month of August include the 11th, 18th, and 19th... possibly others if those aren't good. If you're interested please post or PM when you're available so I can plan this around having as many people as possible. Anyone who needs help getting directions or finding local lodging do the same. Food and Drink will be provided in quantity.

The club is at 425 River Street in Troy, NY 12180.

The installed system is Danley, with an X-VCA at FOH and a GL3300 at monitors. We'll have it to ourselves, there's plenty of beer and parking.

Wedges I know are coming:
Adamson
Community M12
FBT something
ADR Audio M1225

Wedges LABsters are bringing:
Radian Microwedge 12"
EAW SM500

Wedges I can get if there's interest:
Meyer UM1
Other suggestions?

Wedges that will be there anyway:
Proprietary coax by Dalbec
Peavey SP12

If anyone has a favorite they would like to bring and compare to these, that would be great. There will be plenty of power and DSP there... please let me know if I should get something other than DriveRack. Other toys that will be there include some Camco and Lab.Gruppen amps for powering the passive monitors, a digital snake or two, and depending on time frame an APB Dynasonics Spectra T.

I very much want the focus here to be on comparing sonic qualities of various higher-end wedges as opposed to verifying specs, so unless several people want to spend time measuring I'm going to try and keep it to A/B/Xing several different wedges placed identically with the same mic. I'll have some fancy Sencore product or another there for basic level matching, measurement, and sweep generation. If people want to bring instruments, that would be super cool, since then we could compare how well each wedge cuts through stage noise. I'll have plenty of mics there, graphic EQs for feedback elim are Rane GE30.

Anyone who would like to take a few of the demo wedges home with them to road test is more than welcome... pretty much everything there will be a manufacturer demo, and I don't have time to write them all up, so come window shop!


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Re: Albany Monitor Wedge Shootout
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2006, 06:43:53 PM »

If its a weekend or two (26th of August) later, I could make it.  Will likely be back in Troy again on the 25th.
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Re: Albany Monitor Wedge Shootout
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2006, 06:45:41 PM »

Bennett Prescott wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 14:02






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I very much want the focus here to be on comparing sonic qualities of various higher-end wedges as opposed to verifying specs, so unless several people want to spend time measuring I'm going to try and keep it to A/B/Xing several different wedges placed identically with the same mic. I'll have some fancy Sencore product or another there for basic level matching, measurement, and sweep generation. If people want to bring instruments, that would be super cool, since then we could compare how well each wedge cuts through stage noise. I'll have plenty of mics there, graphic EQs for feedback elim are Rane GE30.

Anyone who would like to take a few of the demo wedges home with them to road test is more than welcome... pretty much everything there will be a manufacturer demo, and I don't have time to write them all up, so come window shop!


Somehow I missed the end of your post.
Well that answers my question about an analyzer.
You might just let smarrt run in TF mode with the measurement mic mounted to the mic stand and anyone can look at it if they care to. Put the computer off to the side and hook a big computer monitor up to it.

Just shooting from the hip

   
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Re: Albany Monitor Wedge Shootout
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2006, 08:23:31 PM »

Chris mentioned the l-acoustics 115hiq.

I'm trialling 2 of these this weekend at my church. Initial testing last night:

Imagine taking a very hi quality studio headphone, making it into a wedge, and then giving it volume that can induce nausea, and you've got a 115hiq.

Using the wedge without outboard eq (they have some in the processor settings) gave me stupidly loud vocal. I'm betting that using my KT helix I could get that wedge to peel eyebrows off a vocalist without feedback, provided they followed good mic techinique.



If you're interested in testing high end wedges, try and see if you can get one or two of these. Will need lap amps for them, and specific settings for a small range of crossovers.

I'd love to hear the results. As for me, i'm off to hear the rat/radian 15's in the next week and will see how they fare fidelity wise with the hiq's.

Wish I could be there but there is more than pond between me and your albany.

Andrew
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Re: Albany Monitor Wedge Shootout
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2006, 09:05:45 PM »

Hey Curtis,

There will be an analyzer (well, several really) handy for anyone who wants to play with it. I'm just going to be using my ears and taking notes to post later.

I can move this later if enough people can't make it, hence this post trying to figure out what fits in with people's schedules.

I'm working on some other wedge options, too... I think a dozen might be about all we can do. We're at about 8 now. Hopefully people will be able to take some home with them and play on their own time to help get some better impressions.
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Re: Albany Monitor Wedge Shootout
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2006, 09:07:05 PM »

Hey, James, I have RPI Welcome Fest on the 25th, so that would be a good weekend for me too. I'll see if the club is available.
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Re: Albany Monitor Wedge Shootout
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2006, 10:16:29 PM »

If you do it on the 12th, I can bring one of my Meyer UM-1P's.
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Re: Albany Monitor Wedge Shootout
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2006, 10:22:48 PM »

Too Tall (Curtis H. List) wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 18:45

...You might just let smarrt run in TF mode with the measurement mic mounted to the mic stand and anyone can look at it if they care to. Put the computer off to the side and hook a big computer monitor up to it. ...
   

...Or a nice projector. I can bring one if I come. (You local boys can find us a screen to shoot it on, or just a big white sheet). Cool
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Re: Albany Monitor Wedge Shootout
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2006, 11:06:32 PM »

The 12th is, sadly, as far as I know, and much to my chagrin, while being quite beyond my control, out. I can get one from Meyer if nobody brings one, but I can't get a JP! None of the other dates work for you at all?
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Re: Albany Monitor Wedge Shootout
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2006, 11:47:35 PM »

My bad, I meant the 11th  Confused  Can you get a demo of an ISIS wedge? I'd be interested in hearing one.
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