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andrew gissing

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Gadd Aja tom sounds
« on: June 15, 2006, 02:45:02 am »

This probably should be over in the recording area.. but I don't hang out there and well... thought i'd try here.

I've just discovered Aja (1977...) and i'm really impressed with the tom sounds. Especially around 2:25 where there is a solo.

Can anyone point to information on how this was done - toms, skins, tuning, micing and all that ? I've tried a few combinations in google.


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Re: Gadd Aja tom sounds
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2006, 07:32:25 am »

Steve Gadd.

Check out Simon and Garfunkel Live in Central Park.
He tears it up on a few tunes
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Re: Gadd Aja tom sounds
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2006, 09:09:37 am »

Dunno about mic techniques, but it's almost certainly a Yamaha kit.  The toms are tuned surprisingly low for their size.

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Re: Gadd Aja tom sounds
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2006, 10:24:55 am »

Apparently one of the tricks is to lay out a huge line of coke on the floor tom before recording a take.

I don't know for sure, though, because I wasn't there at the time :-)
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Re: Gadd Aja tom sounds
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2006, 01:50:32 pm »

andrew gissing wrote on Wed, 14 June 2006 23:45

This probably should be over in the recording area.. but I don't hang out there and well... thought i'd try here.

I've just discovered Aja (1977...) and i'm really impressed with the tom sounds. Especially around 2:25 where there is a solo.

Can anyone point to information on how this was done - toms, skins, tuning, micing and all that ? I've tried a few combinations in google.


Google for "Wendell Jr Drum Replacement."

And Fowler's probably right about the line of coke, tho' I thought the problem was a Horse of a different color, if you catch my drift.

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Re: Gadd Aja tom sounds
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2006, 08:59:31 pm »

Thanks for the info.

I'm not looking to reproduce the sounds just wondering how they were obtained. I was thinking they were tuned very loose - I think Scott's on the money by being tuned low for their size.

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Re: Gadd Aja tom sounds
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2006, 09:04:19 pm »

Try laying a towel over the head of each tom.  That oughtta get it just about dead enough to match Gadd's tone.
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Re: Gadd Aja tom sounds
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2006, 08:43:50 am »

Interesting... a Google for "Wendel Jr drum replacement" (only one L in Wendel) turns out a PDF of the manual for Wendel Jr.  

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WENDEL's first performance was on the STEELY DAN "GAUCHO" album.



Which of course means that it wasn't used on Aja.

I once worked with a drummer who was a big Gadd fan - he had the same Yamaha "recording custom" drumkit, and the toms were tuned to give that same sound from Aja.  It is kind of a dead tone, since the lower pitch doesn't ring very long.  More of a pronounced pitch bend, too.

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Re: Gadd Aja tom sounds
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2006, 11:44:31 am »

Scott Helmke (Scodiddly) wrote on Fri, 16 June 2006 05:43

Interesting... a Google for "Wendel Jr drum replacement" (only one L in Wendel) turns out a PDF of the manual for Wendel Jr.  

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WENDEL's first performance was on the STEELY DAN "GAUCHO" album.



Which of course means that it wasn't used on Aja.


Ah, OK, thanks for the clarification.  

I prefer Pretzel Logic and Katy Lied, anyways.  You know, before they Sold Out.

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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2006, 12:54:57 pm »

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...I prefer Pretzel Logic and Katy Lied, anyways.  You know, before they Sold Out.

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