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Thomas R. Pullen

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01v96v2 preamps
« on: April 18, 2006, 10:30:39 pm »

I have a (actually very reputable) guy here in St. Louis telling me that the 01v96v2 has horrible preamps.  Says that my current MixWiz smokes it and that I need to go with the DM1000 or DM2000.  

Thoughts?
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2006, 12:03:28 am »

An astrologer told me the other day that my girlfriend and I are perfect for each other because I'm an Aries and she's a... something. The astrologer really believed in what they were telling me, too. I think it's horseshit, especially since that girlfriend is now ex-.
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2006, 12:24:48 am »

Bennett Prescott wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 21:03

An astrologer told me the other day that my girlfriend and I are perfect for each other because I'm an Aries and she's a... something. The astrologer really believed in what they were telling me, too. I think it's horseshit, especially since that girlfriend is now ex-.


Sorry to hear that but at least you will remain right ear domenant! Shocked
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2006, 12:41:50 am »

Well, actually, we're back together... I was really just trying to make a point about the reliability of other people's beliefs Razz
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2006, 01:24:56 am »

Thomas R. Pullen wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 19:30

I have a (actually very reputable) guy here in St. Louis telling me that the 01v96v2 has horrible preamps.  Says that my current MixWiz smokes it and that I need to go with the DM1000 or DM2000.  

Thoughts?


Thoughts?

Show me the measurements.

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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2006, 01:33:51 am »

This has been my experience with the mixwiz, and the 01v, and 01v96V2: When I first got the older 01v, I thought it sounded "about as good" as the mixwiz. BUT, by the time you run an insert cable into/out of decent dynamics, the 01v seemed to have a slight advantage sonically. Then add in the 4 band parametric EQ, and the 01V won out for features, tho I really think they sound "about as good/bad as each other". Not the same, but I didn't prefer one over the other. Then I got the '96. I will say the '96 is a marked improvement over the old 01V. More "open" "airy", like walking thru a meadow after a light summer rain.... oh, wait, that is a feminine product commercial. We now return to our regularly scheduled program, do not adjust your TV. Seriously, to me the '96 sounds better than the older one, which again, to me, sounded about on par with the mixwiz. Take it for what it's worth which according to Bennett, is horseshit.
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2006, 07:55:42 am »

That, in my opinion, is a complete load of crap.

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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2006, 04:17:14 pm »

Simon,

 Care to clarify exactly which part and/or parts of it are crap?? Be carefull, you don't know which wiz I was talking about, there are three. Are you saying the 01v/wiz comparison is crap, or the 01v/01v96 comparison is crap, or????
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2006, 04:48:13 pm »

I think Simon was replying to the OP and I agree with him. To say that the 01v96 pre's are "horrible" is crap. In my experience they are clean, quiet and transparent. This is a very widely used mixer. If some part of it was "horrible", the word would be out. I don't recall any of the many v96 users on this board ever complaining about the pre's. And comparing it to the DM1k and 2k which cost far more is apples to oranges.

JMO...
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2006, 05:17:02 pm »

Craig,

Ah.....  I guess I could have thought of that too....


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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2006, 06:17:55 pm »

Lee, don't be too hard on yourself.

I'm sure Simon's reply was *intended* for the OP.
But infact he replied to your post.....(are you using flatview Simon?)

And I agree with those who think the statement, relayed by
the OP, is ehrrr.....wrong.

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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2006, 09:03:35 pm »

Mats Fagerkull wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 18:17

But infact he replied to your post.....(are you using flatview Simon?)

I see "is a reply to #120994"...
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2006, 10:44:12 pm »

Hi Mats,

Sorry guys, I wasnt quite specific enough ...

My comment was in response to "I have a (actually very reputable) guy here in St. Louis telling me that the 01v96v2 has horrible preamps."

I'm not knocking MixWizards!

Oh, and Mats, as Bennett pointed out, I did in fact reply to the original post; I'm not quite sure how you think I didnt ...  Confused

Apologies for any confusion,

Simon
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2006, 04:40:16 am »

Ahh... sorry Simon *my* bad Embarassed .

I was reading the number too quick so I mixed them up myself.
Not to self: don't put foot in mouth Rolling Eyes, also *do* go to bed when tired....

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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2006, 11:37:18 am »

  I've used one quite a bit and would not say that the preamps are anything special.  The whole package of the 01V96 is what it makes it so good.  Very flexible and powerful for a small size and low price, but nothing else stands out except for it's flexibilty, size and low price!
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2006, 05:41:41 pm »

I recently purchased an 01V96K mixer, which replaced a MixWizard 16:2.  Yamaha reps will tell you the pre's in the 01V don't compete with the DM/M7CL/PMD consoles, although they are actually pretty good.  I recently used the console to drop live concert audio into a MOTU Traveler and DP4.6 software, and the audio was stellar--far better than I ever got out of my Wizard using direct outs in the analog world.  Sure, it wasn't as good as a DM1K/DM2K, but what the heck.  You have to look at the entire system to make judgement calls like that.  Can you really tell the difference between the pre's of each mixer through anything less pristine than studio monitors?  Probably not.  

I honestly miss the EQ of the 'Wizard' for quick "down and dirty" sound checks, even though the digital EQ is much more flexible.  Add to that fact that the 'verbs are far better than the Wizard's, and that you get a decent compliment of dynamics processing, built-in output delays, and patching flexibilty ad nauseum, the 01V is honestly the better way to go.  If you MUST have better preamps, then just consider adding a card and a couple of MLA8's.  Then you'll have 32 channels at your disposal, 16 of which are pre's based on the DM2000!   Smile
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2006, 06:03:12 pm »

CareyH wrote on Fri, 05 May 2006 17:41

If you MUST have better preamps, then just consider adding a card and a couple of MLA8's.  Then you'll have 32 channels at your disposal, 16 of which are pre's based on the DM2000!   Smile
How are you planning to connect those MLA8s to the 01v96? You could add an MY8-AD96 or an MY8-ADDA to get 1 of them in, but for the second one you will either have to include the mic pres you are trying to avoid in the first place, or unbalance the MLA8 and go in the insert return, thereby losing the inserts.

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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2006, 07:05:01 pm »

Thanks for the correction, Mac.  In search of my own solutions for adding an additional 16 channels to my 01V, I completely failed to recall why I personally wasn't going that way.  My attention has been focused primarily on AES solutions, since it will continue to support 96K/24bit resolution, AND offer an additional 16 channels using the MY-16AE.  It was actually the AD8HR mic pre that my Yamaha rep and I discussed for this use--NOT the MLA8!
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Re: 01v96v2 preamps
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2006, 07:35:00 pm »

Carey Hoffman wrote on Tue, 09 May 2006 19:05

 My attention has been focused primarily on AES solutions, since it will continue to support 96K/24bit resolution, AND offer an additional 16 channels using the MY-16AE.  It was actually the AD8HR mic pre that my Yamaha rep and I discussed for this use--NOT the MLA8!
The MY-16AE does not support 96k and 16 channels, one or the other.

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