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jim_kinkella

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speaker rigging hardware question
« on: June 30, 2005, 04:37:39 pm »

Hi

Does anybody out there have any current sources/know of anyone picking up manufacturing of custom rigging bobs and bits?
I'm looking for an alternative to the AllenxATM PolarFocus scene.
I can always make the stuff myself but it would be great to see someone out there stepping into the custom void.
Is there the same kind of demand for a rigging manufacturer as in the past, or is everybody making their own hardware? I know most of the line array guys are doing their own thing, but I'm thinking more about the contractors hanging miscellaneous clusters with trap boxes and that kind of thing.
thanks

hoping to open up a can of worms...

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Re: speaker rigging hardware question
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2005, 06:02:42 pm »

Well the ones you listed are about the only ones.
Most manufactuerers are NOT making there own.  A good majority are using ATM manuf. pieces.
All rigging items need to be verified for overhead lifting.  If they are or aren't you are still liable for whatever you put over peoples heads.  So if you start using a cutom/homemade piece of yours that doesn't have a pullout/failure rating you are just asking for trouble.
Howevere there are alot of forged bolt/nuts/shackles that you can rig that have ratings.  If you have a fastenal in your area check them out.

If a pipefitter or steel rigger uses them then they most likely have a rating on them by the manufacturer.

sincerely,
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Re: speaker rigging hardware question
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2005, 01:21:37 pm »

Here's a comapny that I use for some eye bolts and stuff.

http://www.kenforging.com/
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Re: speaker rigging hardware question
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2005, 03:23:12 pm »

On a somewhat related note... Is there a website that covers, in detail, rigging hardware & methods for these "fly track" systems?

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Re: speaker rigging hardware question
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2005, 01:41:51 pm »

I haven't found any specific sites regarding use of track and fittings. The actual manufacturer of the stuff (New Haven Moving Equip) only has a small line item in their catalog. There are some bits and and pieces on the ATM site(www.atmflyware.com - look at the flypaper and aircraft fitting sections) and some decent descriptions of some similar parts on the SMI Rigging page(www.smirigging.com). There are other manufacturers that make fittings to work with the track(Kinedyne, Ancra,etc), but they're not much help either.
If you're really looking for more info, there's a guy named Harry Donovan (sp?) who does the occasional seminar. I haven't been to one personally but he's written up some pretty good material.

As a point of clarification, when I'm making my own hardware, it's with the understanding that I have access to the same steel suppliers, certified welders, and engineers available to a company like ATM. I would never recommend to anyone that they hang something that they weld up themselves in their garage, unless they're an engineer that's also a certified welder! It is entirely possible for for most contractors to hang a perfectly safe rig using off the shelf rated parts and pieces, as long as they understand the proper uses.

There's a very interesting cross section of manufacturers using ATM/Allen products, but it's not as many as you would think, and not as many as were using their parts 5-6 years ago. Some manf. use their internal bracing, some just use their external hardware, some both. A number also use different pieces from a number of outside vendors.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2005, 02:23:07 pm »

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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2005, 02:23:40 pm »

ATM Fly has just about anything that you will ever need, Atlanta Rigging is another source. C
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2005, 11:39:04 am »

You might try www.rigging.net.  They have the most information I've found.  I think it might be hard to find specific because of liability issues.
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