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Frederik Rosenkjśr

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"Favorite" problem frequency range?
« on: February 16, 2011, 03:55:35 am »

Inspired by the "Too much bass"-thread in the SUB-forum, I thought it'd be interesting to shed some light on the differences there most likely is between our individual experiences of hearing.

So - do you have a particular frequency range that most often annoys your ears?

Personally, I find 2-3 kHz (the "gak") most troublesome, both when mixing myself and especially when attending other concerts. I must have a lower threshold for pain in that range than some if not most sound engineers, because I very often find vocals and guitars painfully loud right about there, when not mixing the show myself. Also the 'beam of death' from most guitar amps is not a friend of mine.

But I have no problem at all with 4kHz, which is an area I often hear others complain about. I rarely find annoyances there, not in other people's shows nor sound sources hiding under my own faders.

At one theater gig I was setting up for, I was playing a few tones at, what I considered to be, very moderate levels. When around 800Hz a stage tech who was in the room commented on how painfully loud that was, while it was very far from annoying me, while he didn't seem too troubled with 2-3kHz.

Btw. my hearing checks out fine at the ear specialist.

What are your thoughts and experiences of this?
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Re: "Favorite" problem frequency range?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011, 07:50:32 am »

I find too much "sizzle" makes my ears tire quicker and go into protection.
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Re: "Favorite" problem frequency range?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2011, 11:38:49 am »

10K.
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Re: "Favorite" problem frequency range?
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2011, 12:21:28 pm »

While 4Kish can get painful, I find that between 100-200Hz the sounds tends to "pile up" and get all mushy.

You need to take steps to keep this area under control or else the lower bass (below 100Hz) will not sound as defined.
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Re: "Favorite" problem frequency range?
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2011, 12:38:19 pm »

While 4Kish can get painful, I find that between 100-200Hz the sounds tends to "pile up" and get all mushy.

You need to take steps to keep this area under control or else the lower bass (below 100Hz) will not sound as defined.

160Hz seems be a favorite on GEQs for 'dumping' in monitor situations, based on observation.

3-4KHz definitely can bring the 'icepick'.

-my 160hz worth

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Re: "Favorite" problem frequency range?
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2011, 02:38:17 pm »

250Hz and 1kHz.
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Re: "Favorite" problem frequency range?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2011, 06:49:44 pm »

6.4kHz & 10KhZ

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Re: "Favorite" problem frequency range?
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2011, 10:41:48 pm »

10K.

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Re: "Favorite" problem frequency range?
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2011, 12:04:49 am »

Anything that's not supposed to be there;.
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Re: "Favorite" problem frequency range?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2011, 05:15:07 am »

At loud concerts 1-3 kHz and somehow it always sound better through my ear buds. More intelligible and spectral balanced.

When I'm mixing myself 250 - 600 Hz. Not because It's to loud, but I tend to be over sensitive for room modes or any other standing waves in this area. This is very subtle and not be confused with feedback.

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