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[Tim Talbot]

The ''Quake'' bin is meant to be a bloke of 4 cabinets .. not 1 not 2 or 3 but 4 thus completing the Quake sub.... I've run a Powersoft K10 into a bloke of 4 very hard with on problems....

[Tim McCulloch]

The ''Quake'' bin is meant to be a bloke of 4 cabinets .. not 1 not 2 or 3 but 4 thus completing the Quake sub.... I've run a Powersoft K10 into a bloke of 4 very hard with on problems....

"Bloke" as in a male friend?  Or do you mean "block"?

I was at the 2007 NYC sub shootout.  The Quakes (a pair, that's what was provided) fared well and sounded good until we killed them.  IIRC whoever brought them said "it's okay, we have cone kits."  After that, as Ivan points out, the "rules" changed and we ran the remaining test units as hard and low as the provider felt comfortable with.

This really was a clash of the Titans.  All of the subs that made it to the listening phase (and many that didn't) were world-class products that exhibited characteristics that the shootout participants found desirable, either from an acoustic, monetary or packaging standpoint.

It was a fun time.  Paul Bell was a great host and it was good to meet a number of forum participants, particularly Mac, Ivan, David Lee of BassMaxx, Jeff Permanian from JTR and 2/3 of APB Dynasonics (with Olga, too!).

Have fun, good luck.

Tim Mc

[Tim Talbot]

lol sorry BLOCK ...

Your missing my point i think... the ''Quake sub'' comes in 4 parts, you need 4 cabinets to make a Quake sub so you were 2 cabinets short.

[Mac Kerr]

lol sorry BLOCK ...

Your missing my point i think... the ''Quake sub'' comes in 4 parts, you need 4 cabinets to make a Quake sub so you were 2 cabinets short.

According to the EM Acoustics website they perform well when used singly. There is no mention in the product literature of them needing to be used in blocks of 4.

Mac

[Tim McCulloch]

lol sorry BLOCK ...

Your missing my point i think... the ''Quake sub'' comes in 4 parts, you need 4 cabinets to make a Quake sub so you were 2 cabinets short.

The USA distributor provided the Quakes.  I defer to their expertise regarding their products.

[Tim Talbot]

Being only 20mins down the road from EM myself and having spoke with Ed & Mike a few times & with owners of the EM quakes i can safely say that the Quake sub is made of 4 cabinets and that is the product / concept they try and sell.

The Quake sub become a beast when used in the right way... maybe try testing them again one day.

[Ivan Beaver]

Being only 20mins down the road from EM myself and having spoke with Ed & Mike a few times & with owners of the EM quakes i can safely say that the Quake sub is made of 4 cabinets and that is the product / concept they try and sell.

The Quake sub become a beast when used in the right way... maybe try testing them again one day.

As is typical of horn subs-when you increase the mouth area-you get better loading-so the extension goes down lower and sensitivity goes up and the response smooths out.

Do you have any measurements of 1-2-4 subs that show how effective the loading is?  That is always better than "well 4 is trhe way to go" heresay.

And even with front loaded subs-4 would be more impressive than 2.

At this particular event the limit was 2 subs per model number-and that pretty much filled up the place.

[Tim McCulloch]

Being only 20mins down the road from EM myself and having spoke with Ed & Mike a few times & with owners of the EM quakes i can safely say that the Quake sub is made of 4 cabinets and that is the product / concept they try and sell.

The Quake sub become a beast when used in the right way... maybe try testing them again one day.

So you feel it necessary to engage in "lap measurement".

Pffft.

I have no interest in purchasing the EM products nor auditioning them again as we picked a full system solution to fill out our inventory.

Perhaps the mothership at EM should discuss the way their products are represented with the USA importer/distributor.

[Mac Kerr]

Being only 20mins down the road from EM myself and having spoke with Ed & Mike a few times & with owners of the EM quakes i can safely say that the Quake sub is made of 4 cabinets and that is the product / concept they try and sell.

The Quake sub become a beast when used in the right way... maybe try testing them again one day.

Nest time you speak to them maybe you should suggest they change their product description literature to say they are designed to be used in blocks of 4 instead of saying they can be used singly.

Any horn sub will benefit by being used in multiples for the reasons Ivan stated. The only one I know of that states in the product literature that it is meant to be used in blocks of 4 is the EAW KF940.

Mac

[Simon Ryder]

On the second day (the listening day) the "rules" changed when the Quake had its turn for listening.

Up until then the overall volume was kinda limited-I don't remember where or how-it has been awhile.  But the Quake guys said " Let er rip" and give it all you got-we don't care if it tears up.  And that is exactly what was done.  The limit was found.

But to the casual observer who was not there-all they read was "the Quake blew up".  But it was also producing more output-because the input was also higher than the subs that went before-DUH!  That is what happens when yo keep going.

Not exactly the same story.

That is why it is so very important to get the WHOLE story-before decissions are made-especially opinions on the internet based on hearesay.  And why attending such events is a good thing.

Thanks for putting the record straight Ivan. I was quite surprised at the Quakes failing that "early on" but that explains it. Every time I have heard them, they put a smile on my face.

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