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Andy Peters

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Re: Kick Drum Sound & Lighting
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2005, 11:14:46 am »

KDS&L wrote on Tue, 15 February 2005 08:23

I use a D-112 Or a B-52 90% of the time. I have a guy
that uses a 26" slingerland tuned really high and to get
the bottom I crave I use a D-12e.


What if the drummer doesn't want that "bottom you crave?"

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Nathan Lehouillier

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18" Kick Drum
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2005, 11:58:02 am »

As funny as this sounds He is in a band that plays mostly
80's metal and loves the sound I get. If he were looking
for the sound he as on stage I would use a sm-57. Smile
Just like I do with 18" Kick drums.

Regards,
Captin Kick Drum
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Re: "Magic" kick drum
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2005, 02:50:41 pm »

I prefer just to mount the Mic right in front of the Batter and Just let the drummer pound the Hell out of It,  It works really good if you take the Screen off and just let them smack the Diaphragm Directly. LOL   Laughing
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Re: "Magic" kick drum
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2005, 10:47:05 pm »

For Jazz kick I've used a Shure KSM32 on the resonant head and I must tell you it sounded really good.  It doesn't give you the hyped, floppy low end of a Beta52.  It gives you a pretty tight, round sound.  
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Re: "Magic" kick drum
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2005, 01:54:47 am »

I prefer just to mount the Mic right in front of the Batter and Just let the drummer pound the Hell out of It, It works really good if you take the Screen off and just let them smack the Diaphragm Directly. LOL  Laughing
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Re: "Magic" kick drum
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2005, 07:01:58 pm »

I don't know a lot about this, but I know I've always read that the best thing to start out is the mic placement and drum tuning. It seems like that's always 90% of the problem with drums. You're usually not going to make up for a bad drum sound with EQ. If you're having major problems, mess with the drums themselves a lot first and experiment.
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Re: "Magic" kick drum
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2005, 08:06:55 am »

I posted on here before about the AKG D550 and was told to stay away from it. I already had the mic, it came in a drum micing set. We played a practice gig at a local club last Saturday and I have to tell you that with the drum tuned well, the mic placed just in the resonant hole and running the sound through an Allen and Heath PA 12CP the sound was VERY professional. I had the 250 hz EQ almost all the way off, the 60 hz flat and the mid and hi bumped up just a little. The kick was tight, clean and thumping without the boom. I understand that things can almost always be improved upon but IMHO I also believe that how you use something is as or more important than what you're using. I am more than satisfied with the kick and the D550.
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Re: "Magic" kick drum
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2005, 10:28:37 am »

I have never used the 550 but I have had BE's from
national acts bash my "Egg" and demand a B-52/91 and
I like the sound of the "Egg" better. Pointed out by
my Dad is that the B-52 is less of a colored sound
then the "Egg" but most of the time it's what I want.
So I think it's all subjective like everything else in
tuning.
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Re: "Magic" kick drum
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2005, 06:35:44 pm »

Dave I guess it also depends on what type of system you are using the D550  with as well. We were using a system of 4 Vetec 4888's and 2 4880 subs per side with a Soundcraft Series 5 and quality processing and Crown amps and I couldn't get a sound that I was happy with from it and after 20 plus years I've got a pretty good idea how to use things.

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Re: "Magic" kick drum
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2005, 05:21:26 pm »

Hi All

Magic Kick Drum for me wouldnt finish at micselection you can thrown into here what Speaker System are you using and what sort of Equing, Compression, Gates etc.

Currently we are using the BeyerD M88 slightly off axis slightly less beater attack more round sound, Aimed at the non snare side.

Eq,
HPF 30Hz, Save the System
80Hz Boost, Big Sound
250Hz Reduce, Remove the Round Sounds
4Khz Boost, Beater Attack just a little here

Really depends on you rmusic style as well, Metal Loads of 80Hz Slamming Punch, Jazz Rounder Soft Kick.

Personally the money channel isnt the kick drum is the Vocals

Cheers
Stuie
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