Karl P wrote on Wed, 14 July 2004 15:05 |
If there trying to do the job ACAP (as cheap as possible) and still do a decent job, theyd probably have a better go at it with the furman stuff. That way the electricians can drop there lines (1 20a per amp IMNSHO) and they can just find the place with the cheapest furman plugin relay(s) and control them with the PWRLINK.
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This is pretty much what I was going to propose.
If an electrician is going to drop new lines, I would have him wire MP-20Q in two-gang boxes in place of normal Edison recepticles. It looks stupid
(I know because I did it) to have five sets of coiled up AC cords from the amps to the relay box, and then another set of coiled up cords from the relay box to the outlet. To my defense, this was before they had the "Q" versions or the PWRLINK.
Back in the day when I did this for my former church I used the PS-8R (~$300 7 years ago)and three PS-REL voltage sensing relays (~$60 ea) at FOH and five MP-20 remote relays (~$110 ea) in the amp closet. Two snake lines were used for signals. I did double up amps on a couple of circuits and it was ugly.
- Step 1 (on first, off last) did all of FOH from the PS-8R + L/R GEQ + XOVER
- Step 2 did L,R + Mon1,2 amps
- Step 3 did subR(bridged) + subL(bridged) + Mon3,4 amps
It all worked great, about $1000.
IIRC, the MP-20Q relays are ~$80, I would guess ~$250 for the PWRLINK and another ~$60 for the switch box. For this guy, I would guess he would need ~$500-850 total if he has the "Q" relays wired in or ~$650-1000 for "non-Q" depending on number of ciruits.
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If they had the money, the "real" installed ac distro by the likes of lyntek/lowell are most likely a nicer option, but the electricians time and cost of installing the whole shot is much more. Besides, the furman stuff has many uses down the road as well.
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If the electrician would have to install a new service panel anyway, the Lowell stuff might end up cheaper than installing a typical panel plus the Furman. If he is useing the existing service, overall cost will almost certainly be least with the Furman.
He's not moving anytime soon, but he's collecting info. That's the drill for church sound - 3% doing, 97% collecting info for when and if you get budget ...
Maybe he can catch a more substantial renovation in the future and will have learned enough to do it well with Lowell/Lyntec.
Peace,
Vince <><