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Luis Tomás Henares

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Use of left arrow key
« on: April 21, 2004, 05:09:17 am »

I used to click on a post, read it, press Alt+left arrow, then TAB to the next post (or scroll down posts by using TAB) and press enter to see the message.

That was an an extremly fast way of browsing, I understand that TABing is now not an option due to the sheer number of links in between posts.

Like many people, i prefer to use minimize mouse use, as hava and shoulder, arm and wrist problems due to computer use.

One thing that i find annoying is that if i am in the middle of the  frontpage of classic lab forum and click on a post, once i go back using the left arrow key(+Alt), or the back browser button, it takes me back to the beginning of the page and i have to scroll down to the area of the page were i was before.
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Michael Prasuhn

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Re: Use of left arrow key
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2004, 08:32:43 pm »

Luis,

I understand your frustration with the behavior with regard to scrolling the LAB, but the problem is most likely with your browser on your computer. I used to have that problem, but switched browsers and now I am rather pleased. For example on my Mac (I realize you may have windows, but this example still holds as well an example) I have the following web browsers:

Internet Explorer, my previous browser of choice, how ever it always performed exactly as you described, never remembering my scroll location when using back/forward functions

Safari, my new browser of choice, which will remember the scroll location, although it does a rather odd job of it, always displaying the top of the page, and then perhaps taking up to a second to jump to the correct scroll point.

Camino, which does an excellent job of most things, always jumps instantly to the correct scroll point when using the back/forward functions.

Hope this helps some.

-Mikey P
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Re: Use of left arrow key
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2004, 08:59:36 pm »

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Re: Use of left arrow key
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2004, 11:59:21 pm »

Mikey P wrote on Thu, 22 April 2004 01:32

Luis,
Internet Explorer, my previous browser of choice, how ever it always performed exactly as you described, never remembering my scroll location when using back/forward functions

And for a number of reasons IE is probably the worst choice you can make in browsers, regardless of platform.
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Safari, my new browser of choice, which will remember the scroll location, although it does a rather odd job of it, always displaying the top of the page, and then perhaps taking up to a second to jump to the correct scroll point.

Fits with my findings using Konqueror. Kongueror is the web browser used with KDE (the K Desktop Environment) on Linux and Unix systems and Safari is based on the same code and rendering engine as Konqueror. Good choice.
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Camino, which does an excellent job of most things, always jumps instantly to the correct scroll point when using the back/forward functions.

And Camino is from the same developers as Mozilla. (Seems strange that there is both Mozilla and Camino--how do they compare since I don't have a Mac to try them on)

Hmmm, just noticed something strange. Linux and Mac users seem to have more good choices in browsers than Windows users. Windows users will probably have the best results with Mozilla (or Firefox if you don't mind being a bit beyond the cutting edge). Mac users have good choices with Mozilla, Safari or Camino. And Linux users....won't even be tempted to use Internet Exploiter because we can't (and we don't miss it a bit) but can use Konqueror (small, fast, well behaved), Mozilla (more familiar), Firefox and a host of other browsers.

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Re: Use of left arrow key
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2004, 01:18:55 am »

rabbitt wrote on Wed, 21 April 2004 20:59

And Camino is from the same developers as Mozilla. (Seems strange that there is both Mozilla and Camino--how do they compare since I don't have a Mac to try them on)


I believe the actual team is different, though the module owner may be the same.  They are both Mozilla projects.  Mozilla uses the Carbon set of APIs that allow for procedural languages to interface with OS X.  This is how most of the existing Mac apps were initially ported to native OS X.  You can use C, C++, Fortan to code your app and access the APIs.  

Camino (formerly Chimera) is developed using the Cocoa framework.  It's an OO framework, in Objective C and is specific to OS X.  The widgets are portable in the framework, the interface tool provides a rich set of elements with which to design and implement native Aqua interface elemaents.  Cocoa is basically NeXtStep, updated for OS X.  
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Re: Use of left arrow key
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2004, 01:29:02 am »

OK. Makes sense to me. I don't follow the Mac stuff too closely although I've paid a little more attention since OSX came out. (Hopefully we aren't driving everybody crazy here--I guess some of this is a bit off-topic even for the TestForum.)

To put it slightly more on-topic though, despite a few teething difficulties (some of them self caused) I'm coming to appreciate this system more all the time. I have notice a bit of the over aggressive "marked as read" behavior mentioned in another thread, but other than that, I'm really beginning to like it. Thanks for your efforts.

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