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Geoff Doane

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Re: Trusted Brands for XLR cable - cont
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2011, 03:01:48 pm »

I think the XX series is slowly replacing the X series.  I expect that X series will eventually become as scarce as the old C series are now.  There are a few improvements in the XX, and no downsides that I've found so far.

10 ft. sounds short to me.  Do a  mock setup and measure how much length you're actually using.  I have 5m (16.5 ft.) and 8m (26.5 ft.) cables in each kit.  Black connectors on the long ones, and silver on the short, so it's easy to tell them apart when there is a pile of cables.  There is no performance difference.  Even with the gold plated option (on black shells only), I don't think there is an audible difference.  Silver actually has lower resistance, and although it oxidizes, silver oxide is still a good conductor.  For vocal mics, if they are a dark colour, I like to use the black connectors, but that's just me.

Your client is your audience (congregation).  They may be more forgiving than a paying client, but they still deserve reliable audio.  There is a certain satisfaction in grabbing a cable out of a box and knowing that it will work.

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Jason Hanan -- Pro Audio LA

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Re: Trusted Brands for XLR cable - cont
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 07:56:24 pm »

I think the XX series is slowly replacing the X series.  I expect that X series will eventually become as scarce as the old C series are now.  There are a few improvements in the XX, and no downsides that I've found so far.

10 ft. sounds short to me.  Do a  mock setup and measure how much length you're actually using.  I have 5m (16.5 ft.) and 8m (26.5 ft.) cables in each kit.  Black connectors on the long ones, and silver on the short, so it's easy to tell them apart when there is a pile of cables.  There is no performance difference.  Even with the gold plated option (on black shells only), I don't think there is an audible difference.  Silver actually has lower resistance, and although it oxidizes, silver oxide is still a good conductor.  For vocal mics, if they are a dark colour, I like to use the black connectors, but that's just me.

Your client is your audience (congregation).  They may be more forgiving than a paying client, but they still deserve reliable audio.  There is a certain satisfaction in grabbing a cable out of a box and knowing that it will work.

GTD

Also, I thought I'd chime in on the X vs. the XX connectors.  Having worked with both extensively, there is no doubt that the X series are better quality than the XX series.  Mogami themselves still use the X series for a reason.  It's a more expensive product that is built tougher.  The only downfall I'd say is that the X series has a slightly wider profile, which in some cases like MOTU boxes, the slimmer XX series works better with connection points so close to one another.  We'll continue to use the X series as long as they are available.  Hold them both in your hands, and you'll understand what I mean :-)

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Nils Erickson

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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2011, 03:58:10 am »

I've been using Rapco Road Hog mic cables for years... quite simply, I like the tough jackets that coil very easily without funky kinks.  I have had good luck in that regard with Mogami and Canare as well.

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Re: Trusted Brands for XLR cable - cont
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2011, 12:56:04 pm »

Also, I thought I'd chime in on the X vs. the XX connectors.  Having worked with both extensively, there is no doubt that the X series are better quality than the XX series.  Mogami themselves still use the X series for a reason.  It's a more expensive product that is built tougher.  The only downfall I'd say is that the X series has a slightly wider profile, which in some cases like MOTU boxes, the slimmer XX series works better with connection points so close to one another.  We'll continue to use the X series as long as they are available.  Hold them both in your hands, and you'll understand what I mean :-)

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Are we talking about the same X and XX series here?  Both are 19mm in diametre at the end, but the XX has a slight bulge where the boot threads into the shell.  Drawings and dimensions can be found here:

http://www.neutrik.com/fl/en/audio/203_11/XLR_Cable_Connectors_group.aspx

IMHO, the fact that the boot threads into the shell is an advantage, since one of the ways the X-series failed was when the boot was crushed and broken during rough handling.  The shell should help protect the plastic boot, although they are too new for me to have seen any failures yet.  The male connectors also do not have an opening to receive the mating connector's latch, which often deformed on the older series (again, due to rough handling).

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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2011, 10:11:28 am »

I've been using Rapco Road Hog mic cables for years... quite simply, I like the tough jackets that coil very easily without funky kinks...

+1.  I just bought my 4th or 5th batch of RoadHogs (over the past 8 years) from Mike Pyle at Audiopyle.  I spec 'em for my friends and for my (infrequent) consulting jobs.  There is something about the thick rubber on these cables, and the way they wind up (maybe a fetish, who knows).  The cable itself has changed slightly over the years (they seem a little more powdery off the assembly line now, but it wipes off easily) and they have used a few different Neutrik connectors over the years, but the result is the same: excellent, durable cables at a reasonable price.

In the rare cases when I borrow other peoples cables for a large event, there is never any confusion at the end of the gig over which cables are mine: the thick rubber ones with the colored coded (by length) velcro  :).
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2011, 11:41:42 pm »

I like Horizon LowZ1 and Wireworks MusiLUX.  Dunno if Horizon sells ready-mades with that cable (dealers can custom order).  Wireworks: http://www.wireworks.com/Departments/Products/Cords/XLR-Cords/XLR-Cords-Featuring-MusiLUX-Cable.aspx
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