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Rick Powell

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New system at Lambeau Field - problems?
« on: September 15, 2011, 04:28:31 PM »

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/comments/article/20110914/PKR01/110914138/Fans-complain-Green-Bay-Packers-about-poor-audio-quality-new-sound-system-Lambeau-Field

This article (and the reader comments) came as a shock, to say the least, considering what was installed and who installed it.
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Re: New system at Lambeau Field - problems?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 04:52:50 PM »

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/comments/article/20110914/PKR01/110914138/Fans-complain-Green-Bay-Packers-about-poor-audio-quality-new-sound-system-Lambeau-Field

This article (and the reader comments) came as a shock, to say the least, considering what was installed and who installed it.

   Hello,

 1.)  There will always be people that complain about one thing or another...
 2.)  It seems that there's more complaints about the CHOICE of music than the Sound system...
 3.)  What was installed and by whom?  It doesn't say in the Paper article....

   Hammer   
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Re: New system at Lambeau Field - problems?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 05:06:53 PM »

It’s a case of when you have directional speakers, the people have to be in the coverage pattern.
Apparently there were a couple areas on the south corners which given where the speakers were placed, were obscured in the current placement.  I do know they are adding some more boxes for those places and otherwise are very happy with the sound.
Best,
Tom Danley


http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/comments/article/20110914/PKR01/110914138/Fans-complain-Green-Bay-Packers-about-poor-audio-quality-new-sound-system-Lambeau-Field

This article (and the reader comments) came as a shock, to say the least, considering what was installed and who installed it.
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Re: New system at Lambeau Field - problems?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 05:09:56 PM »

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/comments/article/20110914/PKR01/110914138/Fans-complain-Green-Bay-Packers-about-poor-audio-quality-new-sound-system-Lambeau-Field

This article (and the reader comments) came as a shock, to say the least, considering what was installed and who installed it.

Hammer - take a look at:

http://www.commercialintegrator.com/article/lambeau_field_upgrades_speaker_system?utm_source=CEPWeekly&utm_medium=email

and: http://avispl.com/avdesign-integration/project.asp?ProjectID=94

Hmmm. I don't want to run off at the mouth here as I have considerable respect for both companies involved in this installation.

But tweaking the system via comments by punters is hardly the way to achieve good sound quality. Anywhere. And it should not be necessary.

I hope the Packers' spokesman is just spewing spin and that the pro's involved get a handle on this and straighten things out. And quickly.
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Re: New system at Lambeau Field - problems?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 05:16:58 PM »

Hammer - take a look at:

http://www.commercialintegrator.com/article/lambeau_field_upgrades_speaker_system?utm_source=CEPWeekly&utm_medium=email

and: http://avispl.com/avdesign-integration/project.asp?ProjectID=94

Hmmm. I don't want to run off at the mouth here as I have considerable respect for both companies involved in this installation.

But tweaking the system via comments by punters is hardly the way to achieve good sound quality. Anywhere. And it should not be necessary.

  Thanks Toms...

   +1

  and...for all we know...it could be that the operator is not up to speed on this new System.

   Hammer
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Re: New system at Lambeau Field - problems?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 05:43:24 PM »

120db Speakers? did anyone measure the crowd noise throughout the stadium or were these boxes chosen for their weather resistant design alone? I just can't picture these cabinets surrounding the seating perimeter reaching the crowd in the middle of the seating areas with enough volume to be heard over the noise level of the crowd. But I've been wrong before, so who knows.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 06:10:08 PM »

Hi Bob,
Actually we supplied the speakers (not the layout or installation) for the main sound system and the problem isn’t not being loud enough, it’s that the pattern is such that as soon as you are out of it, the sound is greatly diminished.  At the south end, there are places in the corners that are not covered sufficiently and so some additional boxes (SH-50’s or SH-46’s not sure which) are being added to fill those spots out.  Otherwise the feedback has been very positive.

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Re: New system at Lambeau Field - problems?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 06:47:26 PM »

So I am assuming that there are both Community and Danley products involved? Since my respect for both companies is extremely high I am going to guess that the design was not quite right, which would not be a complete shock. In spite of all the software out there, things sometimes get changed on a project like this, or certain issues get overlooked. Certainly wouldn't think it's the products.
I can also say that the guy at the wheel can also make or break a system, although from Tom D's observations I would assume there just a few "oops" in the design.
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 08:07:03 PM »

Hi Duane
I think the community speakers are all around the exterior walkways and hallways.
The interior system is a bunch of GH-60’s, SH100’s and TH-118s. These are the things on the roof I was standing next to in the other picture and are visible on the right in this shot.  These are aimed downward into the crowd and the coverage ends just past the beginning of the grass.
The problem is they are about to re-do the south end (shown) and build a large seating and widescreen in that low area so they did not put in much sound there.
Best,
Tom Danley
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Re: New system at Lambeau Field - problems?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 09:16:51 PM »

Hi Duane
I think the community speakers are all around the exterior walkways and hallways.
The interior system is a bunch of GH-60’s, SH100’s and TH-118s. These are the things on the roof I was standing next to in the other picture and are visible on the right in this shot.  These are aimed downward into the crowd and the coverage ends just past the beginning of the grass.
The problem is they are about to re-do the south end (shown) and build a large seating and widescreen in that low area so they did not put in much sound there.
Best,
Tom Danley

   Hello,
   It's not that anything was overlooked, it was that this Sound System was being installed in stages because Stadium construction is being completed in stages.

   Thanks Mr. Danley, for clearing up the topic.

   Cheers,
   Hammer
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