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Mark McFarlane

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Micing up a Jazz Quartet
« on: January 22, 2011, 10:12:57 AM »

I've been asked to do sound for Darius Brubeck (Dave's son) next week.  Piano, Sax, Upright Bass, Drums.

The've asked for 4 monitors,a bass amp (I'll bring my Eden rig) and 5 mics, Im guessing one per instrument.  I don't know if they want 4 mon mixes or one, but I can deal with that at the last minute.

Although I played jazz many decades ago this is my first jazz gig at FOH.

Venue is a movie theater/live stage, 400 seats, velvet curtains, decent but not great acoustics.  I'm bringing my own rig, the house system has a lot of problems, but I may tap the side surrounds with a single delay and some EQ for fill.

I don't have a set list but based on the instruments I'm guessing traditional jazz, not fusion or some of the guitar stuff Darius has recorded.  I may not be able to talk to the band before sound check, 1.5 hours before the show...

What are your ideas for micing this quartet.   I have in my locker:

Condensor Mics: (1) Pearlman TM-1,  (1) AT 4050, (2) Shure SM81, (1) ADK Hamburg, (1) Rodes NT1a, 9-piece Audix drum mic set
Ribbon Mics:  (2) Cascade Fat Head's with Lyndahl transformers
Dymanic Mics: (1) Sure SM7b, (1) Audix OM-7, (2) OM-6, (3) OM-3s, (3) SM57s

I may have time to try 2 mics per instrument during sound check.

FWIW, I'll probably record the event to an HD24 for my own amusement and education.

Console will be an 01V96, I may bring an ISA828 for a bank of preamps, not sure if its worth pulling it from the studio rack but it may help the recording a tad.
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Re: Micing up a Jazz Quartet
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 11:24:55 AM »

Have you asked them what they want?
Contact them ASAP.

Oh, be sure to check with them in advance about any recording. Some might like it, some may be under contract and not permit it. If you know before hand you might save your self bringing gear you can't use.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 11:41:18 AM »

I've been asked to do sound

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Re: Micing up a Jazz Quartet
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 09:52:40 PM »

Have you asked them what they want?
Contact them ASAP.

Oh, be sure to check with them in advance about any recording. Some might like it, some may be under contract and not permit it. If you know before hand you might save your self bringing gear you can't use.

Hi Rob, I have contacted them, as stated in the original post.  All they responded with was: minimal reinforcement, 5 mics and stands, a bass amp, and 4 monitors.  I have a querry out for more info. 

The HD24 is racked with other gear, 3*adat to the 01V96. I can plug it in or not at the venue.
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Re: Micing up a Jazz Quartet
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 01:00:28 AM »

Hi Rob, I have contacted them, as stated in the original post.  All they responded with was: minimal reinforcement, 5 mics and stands, a bass amp, and 4 monitors.  I have a querry out for more info. 

A few years back I worked with the Brubeck brothers.  They wanted minimal gear then.  They were a pleasure to work with.

Save yourself a little bit of hassle and find out if they are carrying any mics and/or DI's.
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Re: Micing up a Jazz Quartet
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 09:53:38 AM »

A few years back I worked with the Brubeck brothers.  They wanted minimal gear then.  They were a pleasure to work with.

Save yourself a little bit of hassle and find out if they are carrying any mics and/or DI's.

I did get in contact with the band today.  All they are traveling with is their chops and a sax. Everything else is being sourced locally.  I'm soliciting a piano tuner, they have arranged the bass and drums already but I'll bring a backup bass,... 

I live in a country where live music is basically forbidden so pulling off shows like this is problematic, but well worth the effort.

What they've asked for is 4 separate monitor mixes if possible (I can provide), 2 mics for piano (I am thinking the SM81s), 1 for sax, and 2 for drums.  I'm tempted to try some of my studio mics for the drums and sax (Cascade fatheads and AT 4050?),...  I am hopeful stage volumes will be low enough to prevent feedback, but they will be on the apron close to the mains.  There is a theatre set behind them (active production)  that I can't move. 

I also sourced a portable band shell that I am hoping will help reduce the acoustic size of the stage.

I certainly appreciate everyone's comments.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2011, 09:33:36 AM »

Please go to your profile and change the name field to your real full name as required by the posting rules clearly displayed at the top of the page.

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Sorry Mac, I've had an account for years, I just didn't update it properly in the new system.
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Re: Micing up a Jazz Quartet
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2011, 03:29:40 PM »

Mark,

My guess would be that they want one mic per instrument plus one for talking, or possibly a kick and OH mic for the drums, plus one each for everyone else.

I'd probably start out with:

Piano: Cascade ribbon mic, although it may be challenging to place;
Drums: Audix kick mic, AT 4050 for OH (if needed)
Bass: NT1a
Sax: SM7b
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Re: Micing up a Jazz Quartet
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2011, 04:42:34 PM »

Hi Mark,

Since they are using wedges, I would skip the band shell.

Can the venue provide a basic curtain behind the band?
Could be good for visuals and acoustics.

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Re: Micing up a Jazz Quartet
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2011, 12:24:58 AM »

Mark,

My guess would be that they want one mic per instrument plus one for talking, or possibly a kick and OH mic for the drums, plus one each for everyone else.

I'd probably start out with:

Piano: Cascade ribbon mic, although it may be challenging to place;
Drums: Audix kick mic, AT 4050 for OH (if needed)
Bass: NT1a
Sax: SM7b
Announcements: OM3

-Karl

Thanks Karl.. They asked for 2 on piano, 2 on drums, one for everything else.
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