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Ben Coleman

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New Clair Array System
« on: June 27, 2011, 12:36:08 pm »

My apologies for the last post which was locked due to an oversight on my profile!

Went to see the Motley Crue/Poison Tour two weeks ago. The Clair arrays looked like the classic Prism point-source system, yet the grills on the front looked like the new i5,i4 grills, and the boxes looked brand spankin new.

Any ideas on this system or heard much about what this might be?

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Re: New Clair Array System
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 03:54:38 pm »

My apologies for the last post which was locked due to an oversight on my profile!

Went to see the Motley Crue/Poison Tour two weeks ago. The Clair arrays looked like the classic Prism point-source system, yet the grills on the front looked like the new i5,i4 grills, and the boxes looked brand spankin new.

Any ideas on this system or heard much about what this might be?

-Ben

Prism IIa or Prism III(?).  The Prism II has been out in limited quantities for a couple of years.  There are die-hard Prism fans out there, so I'm sure Clair kept the line for those BEs that prefer them.

Perhaps one of the Clair guys can say for sure.  I had some inside info, but it's both dated and confidential.  Based on that, though, I think you saw the new generation of Prism, which has been openly discussed since Clair bought ShowCo.
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Re: New Clair Array System
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 04:52:07 pm »

Prism IIa or Prism III(?).  The Prism II has been out in limited quantities for a couple of years.  There are die-hard Prism fans out there, so I'm sure Clair kept the line for those BEs that prefer them.

Perhaps one of the Clair guys can say for sure.  I had some inside info, but it's both dated and confidential.  Based on that, though, I think you saw the new generation of Prism, which has been openly discussed since Clair bought ShowCo.
I'm working their Nashville show, so I'm looking forward to hearing it.
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Re: New Clair Array System
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2011, 11:33:27 pm »

Prism was (and still is in my mind) the best damn point source array out there..
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 02:49:53 pm »

Prism was (and still is in my mind) the best damn point source array out there..
It's the new Vision system.
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Re: New Clair Array System
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 04:15:54 pm »

Got a photo?
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 05:57:54 pm »

Is it just the same box with all new guts or is Clair going to be like Showco and keep it all secret?
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Re: New Clair Array System
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2011, 07:40:31 pm »

Got a photo?

In Toronto today (friend was on the local crew):

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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 08:18:15 pm »

Is it just the same box with all new guts or is Clair going to be like Showco and keep it all secret?

I spent a few hours talking with both Harry Witz and Andy Meyers about this rig, on the 3rd show it had been out on, a few weeks ago. It is a one of a kind rig (though a few more might be built), and takes into account many of the things Harry believes makes a good rig, including that line arrays aren't the best tool for every job, so this was designed to fit a different need/role/purpose. I was quite shocked with the output and sonic quality this rig had, and the way it's setup.

The guts will probably be a secret for a while, as I dont see it being widely publicized for a while. FWIW, the rig will have black grill covers once the tour's over, the band bought the white grills for the tour.
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2011, 05:37:23 pm »

I was quite shocked with the output and sonic quality this rig had, and the way it's setup.

So the real questions are:
How did the sound compare to a large I5+I5B (line array) rig?
Could you hear comb filtering or other non-uniform coverage issues?

Just thought I would ask...
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2011, 04:04:57 pm »

I was quite shocked with the output and sonic quality this rig had, and the way it's setup.

So the real questions are:
How did the sound compare to a large I5+I5B (line array) rig?
Could you hear comb filtering or other non-uniform coverage issues?

Just thought I would ask...

LOL ...

Have you heard I5 ?
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Re: New Clair Array System
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2011, 04:56:31 pm »

How is the paint job? White things don't do well in our world..
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Re: New Clair Array System
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2011, 09:02:15 pm »

How is the paint job? White things don't do well in our world..

The grills are white so the arrays can be used as screens. See youtube footage of their tour if you want to see how this works.

As for sound quality, they sound superb. And the mix for the Crue yesterday was infinitely better than the mix for U2 the night before.
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2011, 01:49:44 pm »

Saw this show recently.. The engineer for MC was amazing.. I felt like I was back in the early 90's with all the great PS rigs out there.. I'm stuck in liking rigs like the old Prism, Sound Image's G5, 860/750 rigs..

Is it possible PS rigs are making a come back?

It's the new Vision system.
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Re: New Clair Array System
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2011, 02:50:32 pm »

In Toronto today (friend was on the local crew):



Can't see it.
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Re: New Clair Array System
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2011, 12:27:20 pm »

The photo.

The problem is on your end. I not only see the original photo, but the one in the quote where you said you couldn't see it.

Mac
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2011, 01:24:53 pm »

The problem is on your end. I not only see the original photo, but the one in the quote where you said you couldn't see it.

Mac

Ok, so, how to fix this?
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2011, 05:07:30 am »

Ok, so, how to fix this?

Check to make sure your browser is up-to-date, or try a different one entirely.
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Re: New Clair Array System
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2011, 03:40:21 pm »

Dsmond,

Ok, so, how to fix this?

I think the problem may be some form of ad blocker software/plug-in/add-in you may be using.  The images are not hosted on the prosoundweb.com domain, so some blockers will not allow their display.  FWIW, for me, the photo displays fine with IE, Safari, Chrome, & Firefox.

Just a thought...

Greg
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