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Mark J Phillips

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Paperwork/recall sheets & checklists
« on: June 21, 2011, 11:29:44 AM »

Hi guys.
 I'm a newbie here.
Last time I did any type of sound work was 10 years ago when I was involved with a University stage crew where I did a bit of everything.
Now I've got involved with a local Community Interest Company, a none profit organisation trying to rebuild/improve the local live music scene.
Been thrown in at the deep end as Event Organiser/Stage Manager and Sound Engineer. Only small local bands though so no big headaches yet( apart from them all thinking they need to have full stacks on stage all set to 10 in clubs that only hold 300 people  ::)  )
Being as I've been thrown all these roles I need to keep ontop of everything with a ton of paperwork and I wondered what paperwork you guys use ( the desks I get to use are all analog p.o.s's so I'm stuck with recall sheets, no new-fangled digital for me  ;D )
So if you have any copies of blanks/templates for the paperwork you use and wouldn't mind sharing I'd appreciate it
Cheers
M.J
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Re: Paperwork/recall sheets & checklists
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 12:55:45 PM »

Hi guys.
 I'm a newbie here.
Last time I did any type of sound work was 10 years ago when I was involved with a University stage crew where I did a bit of everything.
Now I've got involved with a local Community Interest Company, a none profit organisation trying to rebuild/improve the local live music scene.
Been thrown in at the deep end as Event Organiser/Stage Manager and Sound Engineer. Only small local bands though so no big headaches yet( apart from them all thinking they need to have full stacks on stage all set to 10 in clubs that only hold 300 people  ::)  )
Being as I've been thrown all these roles I need to keep ontop of everything with a ton of paperwork and I wondered what paperwork you guys use ( the desks I get to use are all analog p.o.s's so I'm stuck with recall sheets, no new-fangled digital for me  ;D )
So if you have any copies of blanks/templates for the paperwork you use and wouldn't mind sharing I'd appreciate it
Cheers
M.J

M.J., depending on what desk you use is something to consider. I used to own a Allen & Heath GL2400-424. If you look on their website, they had some templates that you could use for multiple bands in a night. I always sound checked the Headliner first and wrote those on the template and the others got a quick line check. Hope this helps.

Pat


P.S.- BTW you may want to change your name to your real full name. Otherwise this thread will be locked ASAP.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2011, 12:58:34 PM by Pat Latimer »
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Re: Paperwork/recall sheets & checklists
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 01:08:53 PM »

#1 on my priority list is to ALWAYS assign channel inputs the same way for everything and make sure things are patched to the proper input at the stage.  That will eliminate the bulk of the problems.  No changing from "snare" to "bass", etc.

Everything is always in the same place.  If you need "swing" channels, leave an unassigned channel between groups so you can add rogue inputs to the proper grouping rather than further down the board.

If your equipment does not allow you to do this I'd say look for another job  or buy yourself your own desk and snakes.
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Re: Paperwork/recall sheets & checklists
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 02:02:09 PM »

#1 on my priority list is to ALWAYS assign channel inputs the same way for everything and make sure things are patched to the proper input at the stage.  That will eliminate the bulk of the problems.  No changing from "snare" to "bass", etc.

Everything is always in the same place.  If you need "swing" channels, leave an unassigned channel between groups so you can add rogue inputs to the proper grouping rather than further down the board.

If your equipment does not allow you to do this I'd say look for another job  or buy yourself your own desk and snakes.

+1. When the input lists on riders for opening acts substantially differs from that of the headlining act, I always assign channels based off the headliner's input list and order (unless the opener tours with a BE as well, then it can get messy) so as to avoid the need for excessive repatching and associated problems.
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Re: Paperwork/recall sheets & checklists
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 05:08:07 PM »

Pat

Yeah we use a few different venues who have their own desks and have free loan of a couple of others so I get them to let me know ASAP what the desk is then try to find the templates for them. Found Barry Rudolph's site great for this.

Dick
I agree no matter what desk I end up using I always assign my channels in the same order and I also tend to leave unassigned channels between groups.

Paul
At the moment its only small local bands and I end up running the desk for the entire night.Most of them share the backline so its usually only a case of this band needs an extra vocal mic, or this band has two guitars instead of one.So I tend to have everything assigned for all the bands and just have the channels that band arn't using muted.Tech riders and stage plots would be nice but these are small no name bands doing the gigs for free and just for the chance to be onstage.Same as myself, at the moment I'm doing it on a voluntary basis.I may get a couple of beers out of it at the end of the night but its mostly for the experience.
I start a Btech in Music Technology this Sept and seeing as I'll be 38 when I finish I decided I needed something to put me above all the bright-eyed 18 year olds who will be finishing the course at the same time. The way its panning out it looks like I'll have at least 100 gigs under my belt by the time I finish and the possibility of a wage. So although it's not pro level work,and most of the gear I'm having to use is sub standard ( the last gig I worked had 2 SM58's and a bunch of 20 clones that I had to mic everything up with). I still want to make it as pro as I can and hopefully if some of these bands move onto bigger and better things I'll have beaten the bad habbits out of them. Every spare minute I have at the moment has me trawling through web sites or with my head stuck in a book trying to learn as much as I can. The college course isn't brilliant but at the moment its what I can afford in terms of time and cash.

Its nice to know that I'm doing things the same way more experienced people are, and that they are willing to share.So thanks guys
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