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Oscar Castro

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01v96v2+Behringer ADA800......
« on: June 07, 2011, 08:33:51 pm »

Hey guys,

A quick question, i'm using 2 Behringer ADA800 with a Yamaha 01v96v2 and sometimes i use the outputs of the ada, but for some reason (i think is the converter between the digital to analog converter) the outputs on the ada's are very low comparing with the regular xlr outputs or the omni ones.  What can i do so i can match the same output on the ada's? Maybe there is a setting that i don't notice yet and u guys can help me?

Thanks from the sunny and very humid Chicago!!!   :P
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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2011, 08:54:10 pm »

Hey guys,

A quick question, i'm using 2 Behringer ADA800 with a Yamaha 01v96v2 and sometimes i use the outputs of the ada, but for some reason (i think is the converter between the digital to analog converter) the outputs on the ada's are very low comparing with the regular xlr outputs or the omni ones.  What can i do so i can match the same output on the ada's? Maybe there is a setting that i don't notice yet and u guys can help me?

There isn't anything you can do. The maximum output of the 01v96 at 0dBfs is +24dBu, so that what used to be nominal "0Vu" in the analog world (+4dBu) is -20dBfs on the Yamaha. The Behringer ADA8000 has a maximum level at 0dBfs of +16dBu, so it will always be 8dB down from the Yamaha outs.

Some Yamaha consoles have output port attenuation, but I do not think the 01v96 is one of them. You are stuck with the 8dB difference. Assign your output ports with this in mind, so that the devices that need the most drive level come from the omni outs, and the more sensitive devices that don't need as much drive come from the ADA8000 outs.

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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2011, 09:33:19 pm »

Sucks!!!
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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2011, 09:48:03 pm »

What about this?

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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2011, 10:07:27 pm »

What about this?

That will let you attenuate the aux sends, which will be the same as turning the fader down. I would put mains and recording, and other PA feeds on the omni outs and put all the auxes on the ADA8000. All the auxes will match each other in level, but will be down from the PA, which is a whole different system anyway.

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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2011, 10:21:37 pm »

Thanks!
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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 11:35:23 am »

Thanks!
Hi Oscar,
You can attenuate any OMNI output on the 01v96 by:
1. Press "DIO/Setup" button
2. Scrolling through the pages until you reach the "OUTPORT ATT" page

You can attenuate in 1 dB steps up to 9 dB.
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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 03:04:06 pm »

Hi Oscar,
You can attenuate any OMNI output on the 01v96 by:
1. Press "DIO/Setup" button
2. Scrolling through the pages until you reach the "OUTPORT ATT" page

You can attenuate in 1 dB steps up to 9 dB.

It's where i point to Mac, right?
So can i increase it in there?

Thanks
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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 04:08:36 pm »

It's where i point to Mac, right?
So can i increase it in there?

No. It is an output port attenuator. There is no way to turn anything up, but you can turn down the omni outs so they match the ADA8000 outs. According to the specs that should be 8dB, but listen to make sure.

If you attenuate the omni outs by 8dB, at an output meter reading of -12dBfs you should have an output level of +4dBu from both the omni outs and theADA8000 outs, which in the old analog days equated to "0Vu".

Mac
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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 06:14:45 pm »

No. It is an output port attenuator. There is no way to turn anything up, but you can turn down the omni outs so they match the ADA8000 outs. According to the specs that should be 8dB, but listen to make sure.

If you attenuate the omni outs by 8dB, at an output meter reading of -12dBfs you should have an output level of +4dBu from both the omni outs and theADA8000 outs, which in the old analog days equated to "0Vu".

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Got it!

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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2011, 06:22:10 pm »

No. It is an output port attenuator. There is no way to turn anything up

Yamaha's Aux Out "attenuators" go from -96 to +12, and have plenty of gain to compensate for the ADA.
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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA800......
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 08:25:46 pm »

What are you patching to your ADA8000?
If its an Aux send then go to the EQ section in the Aux Master and add 8 dbs gain to the output. ( Of course after all eqing is done and if there is headroom available there. One could always get some gain in the compressor stage if it is not in use...) This will match the ADA's output to your omni outs and L/R outs. It is of course to note the ADA has less headroom. It will struggle with amps that require very high dbv input levels.  I have 2 and have no problems running my monitor amps or self powered boxes with the ADA.

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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2011, 08:30:44 pm »

No. It is an output port attenuator. There is no way to turn anything up

Yamaha's Aux Out "attenuators" go from -96 to +12, and have plenty of gain to compensate for the ADA.

Sorry.
You were ahead of me. I was just looking at the first page of threads and missed your reply.
Kindest Regards;
Douglas R. Allen
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Re: 01v96v2+Behringer ADA8000......
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2011, 09:24:57 am »

Yamaha's Aux Out "attenuators" go from -96 to +12, and have plenty of gain to compensate for the ADA.

Sorry I thought that was the output port attenuation that is available on other Yamaha boards. Yes you can bump up the aux send at that point, but you are reducing headroom by 8dB. If your signal before the "attenuator" goes above -8dBfs you will clip the ADA8000. It is better to reduce the level of the omni outs, or better yet make the correction somewhere else.

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