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Mac Kerr

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Wasted screen space
« on: December 16, 2010, 04:52:41 pm »

On my screen there is about an inch of unused border on both the left and right sides of the screen. This is making the forum screens very cramped feeling.

It is also a PITA to have to scroll down to find the "post" and "preview" buttons. Can they appear at the top of the posting window as well (or instead)?

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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 05:33:05 pm »

The wasted screen space is really bad on my iPad. The actual content, the stuff that brings people here to see the ads, is less than half of the screen width. In these days of ever smaller devices wasted space is more of an issue than ever.

It would also help if the avatar and member info was in a header, or if the message text could wrap under it. The empty area under the avatar is another big waste of valuable screen real estate.

Looking back at an individual post on the iPad, the text is actually less than 20% of the screen width. Wow!

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« Last Edit: December 16, 2010, 05:39:01 pm by Mac Kerr »
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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 06:30:16 pm »

Here are some crappy phone photos of both my iPad screen, and my laptop looking at both sites.

The first is my iPad looking at the main screen, the second is my iPad looking at an individual message, the third is my laptop looking at that same message, the fourth is my iPad looking at the current version of PSW.



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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 10:09:42 pm »

Yes! Oh my god this layout is all over the place. Too much candy, no content. The ads I get, but once you're already taking up 1/4 of the screen with ads why take up another 1/4 for no reason? This whole forum layout is enormous!
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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 10:23:49 am »

Yep. We're working on the skin and theme. This was sort of hacked together by me to a) show where the ads will be b) proof of concept for the header.

Our Art Director has been sick, I'm working with him on the layout. The layout should be fixed by the middle of next week. I know one hack broke the stylesheet, I'll see if that is still the issue.

Man, it looks really bad on the iPad.
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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 07:50:22 pm »

Yep. We're working on the skin and theme. This was sort of hacked together by me to a) show where the ads will be b) proof of concept for the header.

Our Art Director has been sick, I'm working with him on the layout. The layout should be fixed by the middle of next week. I know one hack broke the stylesheet, I'll see if that is still the issue.

Man, it looks really bad on the iPad.

The default font size for the forum text should be smaller.

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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 07:52:05 pm »

The default font size for the forum text should be smaller.

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What about nested quotes?

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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2010, 07:52:27 pm »

Yep. We're working on the skin and theme. This was sort of hacked together by me to a) show where the ads will be b) proof of concept for the header.

Our Art Director has been sick, I'm working with him on the layout. The layout should be fixed by the middle of next week. I know one hack broke the stylesheet, I'll see if that is still the issue.

Man, it looks really bad on the iPad.

What about nested quotes?

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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2010, 11:18:52 am »

The layout and space taken for a post seems even more of a problem if you're limited to flat view, you just can't see much on the screen at once.

And somewhat related, only being able to reply to the thread, not a post, and having to go to the top or bottom of the entire discussion to do so will be a pain.  In fact with the long and often multiple branched discussions that happen here I find being limited to flat view to be very awkward.

No spell check?
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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 12:39:08 pm »

The layout and space taken for a post seems even more of a problem if you're limited to flat view, you just can't see much on the screen at once.

And somewhat related, only being able to reply to the thread, not a post, and having to go to the top or bottom of the entire discussion to do so will be a pain.  In fact with the long and often multiple branched discussions that happen here I find being limited to flat view to be very awkward.

No spell check?

You can quote from within the message you are responding to, and ideally that would be the only way to post. Being limited to flat view there is no way to follow the logical order of a thread, but at least having quotes would make it a little better. It will be important to get rid of those reply buttons at the top and bottom of the thread, or this will quickly become a quagmire.

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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2010, 08:12:06 pm »

You can quote from within the message you are responding to, and ideally that would be the only way to post. Being limited to flat view there is no way to follow the logical order of a thread, but at least having quotes would make it a little better. It will be important to get rid of those reply buttons at the top and bottom of the thread, or this will quickly become a quagmire.

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Reply buttons at the top of the page are to the right of the "Pro Sound Web Community" header.  I need the window about the size of the screen to see everything, and it's a pain to look at this thread on the iPhone.  Can those move to below the header, instead of on the side of it?  This reply page is fine, however all of the text sizes can be decreased.
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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2010, 03:50:03 am »

Space is wasted on the right side, but there's a bigger problem - pictures aren't auto-sized so the width gets way too wide PLUS the wasted space on the right for ADs.

This was a problem with Fudforum as well, so you should make sure you don't leave this unfixed on the new forums.

Here's how this thread looks on my screen:
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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2010, 01:51:22 am »

It's not terrible with AdBlocker Plus.
But there is still wasted space.

BTW, this whole thing is so 2005.
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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2010, 09:31:06 am »

The default font size for the forum text should be smaller.

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I don't need smaller text, and sometime scale up PSW to read it easier.. a problem I don't encounter on other fora, of course since we can teak this on our end, no worries.

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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2011, 10:23:56 am »

I'm glad that the ad on the right hand side has disappeared, viewing the site on the iPad a breeze, no app needed. On a PC the forum looks simple and 'kiddie'. The extra space and additional borders between every single things make it seem like compensation for lack on content. I am a fan of no frills.

But when opening this thread, Mac's pictures forced the page outwards and changed the entire field-of-view. I would prefer that no matter what I am looking at, the forums stays the same pixel width. Web sites should only have one scroll direction, either all vertical or all horizontal.
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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2011, 02:14:22 pm »

I'm glad that the ad on the right hand side has disappeared
It makes no difference, there's still a large blank space on the right of the forum.

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But when opening this thread, Mac's pictures forced the page outwards and changed the entire field-of-view.
That's a flaw in SMF where it doesn't auto-size picture attachments.

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I would prefer that no matter what I am looking at, the forums stays the same pixel width.
I agree, BUT that width should be set by me, not the web site. i.e. If I widen the window, the forum should widen as well. Fixed-width forums are a huge frustration. At least this forum does size itself to your browser width, they just need to get rid of that wasted space on the right of the page.
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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2011, 05:34:19 pm »

It makes no difference, there's still a large blank space on the right of the forum.
That's a flaw in SMF where it doesn't auto-size picture attachments.
I agree, BUT that width should be set by me, not the web site. i.e. If I widen the window, the forum should widen as well. Fixed-width forums are a huge frustration. At least this forum does size itself to your browser width, they just need to get rid of that wasted space on the right of the page.
Yes, this is even better than what I was thinking. My biggest complaint right now is that looking at the top of the page the search bar and "News:" is a third of a page over. Can we flush that with the right side of the messages? Somewhere above the "Unread Posts" and "MARK READ" buttons?

Picture, while Previewing my post this happened. I like that warning, however no new posts were added.
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Re: Wasted screen space
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2011, 11:22:33 am »

It makes no difference, there's still a large blank space on the right of the forum.
That's a flaw in SMF where it doesn't auto-size picture attachments.
That "large blank space" is where a lot of the photos show up on my computer. 

Sort of like a dual screen monitor mode: text on the left monitor, photos on the right monitor. 

When there is a photo, I see a corresponding large white space on the left side.

I'm on a Mac/Safari.
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