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David Parker

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crazy ears
« on: June 02, 2011, 06:46:34 am »

my rig always sounds louder on the left side when I'm in the middle. It's been that way for YEARS! Setup is random as to which speakers are on which side, and which side of everything is on which side. It's been through several major system changes, different speakers, mixers, processors, etc., but the left side always sounds louder. When I wear headphones, the music is centered up, same level on both sides, so it really doesn't make sense. It sounds like only the left side of the rig is playing unless I move way over to the right. Also, this is different venues every time.
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Re: crazy ears
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 06:55:13 am »

Possibly a silly question, but your SURE your standing dead center, and it's not the Haas effect coming into play??
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Re: crazy ears
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 07:09:28 am »

Do you get the same result in different venues?
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Re: crazy ears
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 07:38:32 am »

my rig always sounds louder on the left side when I'm in the middle. It's been that way for YEARS! Setup is random as to which speakers are on which side, and which side of everything is on which side. It's been through several major system changes, different speakers, mixers, processors, etc., but the left side always sounds louder. When I wear headphones, the music is centered up, same level on both sides, so it really doesn't make sense. It sounds like only the left side of the rig is playing unless I move way over to the right. Also, this is different venues every time.
Have you done a simple (even SPL) measurement?  TUrn on the left side only and measure-then turn on the right side only and measure.

Be usre you are equally in the same pattern of both sides when doing this.
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Re: crazy ears
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 08:22:59 am »

my rig always sounds louder on the left side when I'm in the middle. It's been that way for YEARS! Setup is random as to which speakers are on which side, and which side of everything is on which side. It's been through several major system changes, different speakers, mixers, processors, etc., but the left side always sounds louder. When I wear headphones, the music is centered up, same level on both sides, so it really doesn't make sense. It sounds like only the left side of the rig is playing unless I move way over to the right. Also, this is different venues every time.

Are you married?  When driving around with your wife do you normally do all the driving?  Could be that your wife has damaged your right ear by screaming at you for years or possibly you have just mentally learned to only really listen with your left ear>   ::)
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Re: crazy ears
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 08:34:30 am »

Are you married?  When driving around with your wife do you normally do all the driving?  Could be that your wife has damaged your right ear by screaming at you for years or possibly you have just mentally learned to only really listen with your left ear>   ::)

How about turning directly away from the speakers to listen (swap the left ear for the right ear)?

Actually I would suspect an uneven makeup gain somewhere post your board (eq's or dsp) or uneven inputs at the amps.
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Re: crazy ears
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 09:02:22 am »

my rig always sounds louder on the left side when I'm in the middle. It's been that way for YEARS! Setup is random as to which speakers are on which side, and which side of everything is on which side. It's been through several major system changes, different speakers, mixers, processors, etc., but the left side always sounds louder. When I wear headphones, the music is centered up, same level on both sides, so it really doesn't make sense. It sounds like only the left side of the rig is playing unless I move way over to the right. Also, this is different venues every time.

Ever pull the cables at the output of your board and swap them?
If it's something after the board causing it, the volume change will switch sides.

If it doesn't, it's happening before it leaves the board, bring a Mackie 1202 or something small and try it at sound check to eliminate your board from the equation.
Using a stereo compressor inserted on your mains? pull it.  etc etc.

Last thing to check - your ears - when I got my hearing checked, my ears didn't chart the exact same response
I do hear a bit different on one side (bit of tinnitus on the right side) The difference is more obvious with speakers than with headphones.
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Re: crazy ears
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 01:23:35 pm »

Where is your amps and length of speaker runs? Are the amps on the left side and shorter runs to the Left PA when you notice this? After about 50' of speaker cable I can hear differences in level between lengths of cable (ie, 50' vs 80'+).

What about the drive snake, is it always the same drive lines? Maybe one is down? Same with post console gear (Drive racks, etc)

Also, just from driving with the window down, my left ear is down .5-1 dB from 1-5KHz last time I had my hearing checked, so don't dismiss the 'environmental' affects on hearing (although if it sounds right in the cans ....)

my rig always sounds louder on the left side when I'm in the middle. It's been that way for YEARS! Setup is random as to which speakers are on which side, and which side of everything is on which side. It's been through several major system changes, different speakers, mixers, processors, etc., but the left side always sounds louder. When I wear headphones, the music is centered up, same level on both sides, so it really doesn't make sense. It sounds like only the left side of the rig is playing unless I move way over to the right. Also, this is different venues every time.
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Re: crazy ears
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 01:40:09 pm »

my rig always sounds louder on the left side when I'm in the middle. It's been that way for YEARS! Setup is random as to which speakers are on which side, and which side of everything is on which side. It's been through several major system changes, different speakers, mixers, processors, etc., but the left side always sounds louder. When I wear headphones, the music is centered up, same level on both sides, so it really doesn't make sense. It sounds like only the left side of the rig is playing unless I move way over to the right. Also, this is different venues every time.

Are you left or right handed?
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Re: crazy ears
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2011, 02:27:09 pm »

my rig always sounds louder on the left side when I'm in the middle. It's been that way for YEARS! Setup is random as to which speakers are on which side, and which side of everything is on which side. It's been through several major system changes, different speakers, mixers, processors, etc., but the left side always sounds louder. When I wear headphones, the music is centered up, same level on both sides, so it really doesn't make sense. It sounds like only the left side of the rig is playing unless I move way over to the right. Also, this is different venues every time.

Stupid question (and correct me if this was already mentioned) but sometimes the simple solutions are the least obvious - is it possible one side of the rig is out of phase? This would cause an obvious difference in the apparent left-right balance...
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