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Hal Harrison

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Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« on: May 23, 2011, 08:09:18 pm »

Hello all,

Looking for the best bang for the buck haze machine to use primarily with LEDs. The hazer will need to be able to cover about a 30'x20' stage with the use of a fan. I am not a lighting guy nor do I play one on TV but wanted to hear your opinions.

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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2011, 06:03:58 pm »

Hello all,

Looking for the best bang for the buck haze machine to use primarily with LEDs. The hazer will need to be able to cover about a 30'x20' stage with the use of a fan. I am not a lighting guy nor do I play one on TV but wanted to hear your opinions.

Thanks
Hal Harrison
A Radiance will run you about $1000 and should have no problems covering that area...it's also quite good on fluid (I go through a jug in about 60-70 shows) so keeps costs down in those regards

how powerful a hazer doesn't really depend on stage size and fixtures used...it depends on how big the room is and what kind of airflow there is. obviously with a state of the art HVAC system that's running full tilt through the summer in a large room, it'll take a lot more haze to get the same effect as in a tiny club with nothing more than window ac.

more people = more haze required as well, as people tend to eat it
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 02:33:31 am »

+1 to Radiance hazer. Doesn't use a lot of fluid and has great output.
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 12:02:00 pm »

Any unit lower than a Radiance doesn't even count. It is a prime example of getting what you pay for.
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 12:25:17 pm »

Any unit lower than a Radiance doesn't even count. It is a prime example of getting what you pay for.

Even the $700 Neutron is a joke compared to the Radiance or a DF50.
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 05:50:06 pm »

Agreed.  I'm still on the original jug o fluid that I bought with the Radiance.  Its got about 200 club shows on it.  Its gettng low tho'. 

On board dmx and on board control.  Its an expensive hit, but I don't worry about the hazer either.   

Any unit lower than a Radiance doesn't even count. It is a prime example of getting what you pay for.
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 10:01:14 pm »

For a Small production company the Antari HZ400 is a great unit
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 11:58:22 pm »

I have a bunch of ADJ Haze Generators in inventory that really do the trick. I put DF-50 fluid in them and haven't had a single problem. Add an AF-1 fan out front and the output and coverage is actually very good for a product at such a low price-point.
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2011, 01:47:36 pm »

I have a bunch of ADJ Haze Generators in inventory that really do the trick. I put DF-50 fluid in them and haven't had a single problem. Add an AF-1 fan out front and the output and coverage is actually very good for a product at such a low price-point.

If you are referring to the Oil based ADJ hazer with a compressor pump. I own one. I no longer use it. 
It is kind of loud for small venues. but mostly it leave a oily residue in all my gear with fans.  ( lights, Active speakers, vinyl records )
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2011, 12:04:21 pm »

Hello all,

Looking for the best bang for the buck haze machine to use primarily with LEDs. The hazer will need to be able to cover about a 30'x20' stage with the use of a fan. I am not a lighting guy nor do I play one on TV but wanted to hear your opinions.

Thanks
Hal Harrison
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This is what I use, oil based. Just plug it in, turn it on and let it run all night, sips fluid, no problems http://starlight.com/neutron.html
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2011, 01:24:32 pm »

Hello all,

Looking for the best bang for the buck haze machine to use primarily with LEDs. The hazer will need to be able to cover about a 30'x20' stage with the use of a fan. I am not a lighting guy nor do I play one on TV but wanted to hear your opinions.

Thanks
Hal Harrison

I know you're looking for an inexpensive hazer, but as far as best value, the DF-50, while one of the most expensive, really is the best bang-for-the-buck.  Over the life of any hazer, the DF-50 requires almost no maintenance, no costs, and go through about 2 ounces of fluid/hour.  And its so rare you need to run it continuously for an hour in almost any venue.  No, i don't work for the company, but its one of the best investments in the lighting world.
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2011, 09:21:04 pm »

I know you're looking for an inexpensive hazer, but as far as best value, the DF-50, while one of the most expensive, really is the best bang-for-the-buck.  Over the life of any hazer, the DF-50 requires almost no maintenance, no costs, and go through about 2 ounces of fluid/hour.  And its so rare you need to run it continuously for an hour in almost any venue.  No, i don't work for the company, but its one of the best investments in the lighting world.
DF-50s are great if you get the dmx controllable version...the non-dmx version, however, isn't so great as there's no control over the amount of output you get

as for oil vs water based, I MUCH prefer water, as even though the droplet size is slightly larger, it doesn't leave a residue which after extensive use. Not such an issue for a production company, but in a club scenario you'll end up having to do quite a bit more maintenance on your gear because of it
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 02:45:37 pm »

DF-50s are great if you get the dmx controllable version...the non-dmx version, however, isn't so great as there's no control over the amount of output you get

as for oil vs water based, I MUCH prefer water, as even though the droplet size is slightly larger, it doesn't leave a residue which after extensive use. Not such an issue for a production company, but in a club scenario you'll end up having to do quite a bit more maintenance on your gear because of it

You can put the hazer on a DMX relay - cheaper than getting the DMX or timer unit installed on the DF-50.

As far as residue, i have noticed none as long as the venue is not overfilled with haze.  Reel EFX & CITC claim that there is no residue if used properly, and I have the same results.  However, I absolutely see it as a possibility in a club venue if used all the time.  If used properly (which tends to be only a couple of minutes/hour for most venues), I don't think residue would be much of a problem.
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Re: Best Bang for the Buck Hazer
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 07:01:29 pm »

DF-50s are great if you get the dmx controllable version...the non-dmx version, however, isn't so great as there's no control over the amount of output you get

You can put the hazer on a DMX relay - cheaper than getting the DMX or timer unit installed on the DF-50.

thats still on or off...it can't be run at say, 50% if full on is too much for the venue, even with minimal usage. personally i like hazers that i can turn on and leave on all night so i don't have to think about it while i'm running a show. last thing I want to happen is;

a) have a fire alarm system in a venue trip due to excess haze because i forgot it was on while running a cue intensive portion of a show

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b) miss cues in the show while turning the hazer on/off

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as for oil vs water based, I MUCH prefer water, as even though the droplet size is slightly larger, it doesn't leave a residue which after extensive use. Not such an issue for a production company, but in a club scenario you'll end up having to do quite a bit more maintenance on your gear because of it

As far as residue, i have noticed none as long as the venue is not overfilled with haze.  Reel EFX & CITC claim that there is no residue if used properly, and I have the same results.  However, I absolutely see it as a possibility in a club venue if used all the time.  If used properly (which tends to be only a couple of minutes/hour for most venues), I don't think residue would be much of a problem.
they can claim it all they like, but I know for a fact every time someone brings an oil based hazer into my venue i need to clean oily shit out of all my lights the next day...
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