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Gordon Brinton

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Re: stepping up to a new level
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2011, 08:23:13 pm »

...My FOH experience is relatively limited....

I am somewhat jealous.

I've been running jobs on both monitor mixer and FOH for years. I consider myself to be more highly skilled than most unknowns. I've never been asked to mix for a nationally known band. All I get is shitty local bands who ask me to mix on the shittiest PA gear on the planet.

Maybe I need to raise my price.

(end rant)

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luis Markson

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Re: stepping up to a new level
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2011, 09:58:12 pm »

I am somewhat jealous.

I've been running jobs on both monitor mixer and FOH for years. I consider myself to be more highly skilled than most unknowns. I've never been asked to mix for a nationally known band. All I get is shitty local bands who ask me to mix on the shittiest PA gear on the planet.

Maybe I need to raise my price.

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Part of my trepidation comes down to my predisposition to underestimate my abilities and not really see the experience that I have had as what it is. When I got started on sound check I quickly realised that even though my movement around the desk was slow, my skills were appropriate for the gig, taking into account the location, venue and act.

I have worked with many national level acts, including those with songs in the charts, as a monitor op and am in the process of learning to transfer those skills to FOH. This is going to involve a lot of work in developing my abilities in the finer aspects of mixing and adaptation to a wider range of music styles.

It may very well be your location that is limiting your access to national acts. Is there a lot of competition for gigs? There aren't that many competent ops around my area, so my chances for better gigs is higher.

 
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Re: stepping up to a new level
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2011, 11:23:30 pm »

...It may very well be your location that is limiting your access to national acts. Is there a lot of competition for gigs? There aren't that many competent ops around my area, so my chances for better gigs is higher.

I would attribute it to equal parts of my poor location, client loyalty to existing engineers, and my own lack of pursuit. I could always go apply for work at Clair Brothers and attempt to clime the ladder. I could always apply for a business loan and invest heavily in advertising. I could always move to a large city and muscle my way in to the scene. I could always pound the pavement to hustle up gigs as house engineer at your better clubs. I could always write to all talent agencies and promoters within 100 miles and offer my services. But then, it is far easier to just sit here and complain. Besides, I already have a full-time day job and another part-time job that keeps me busy. Running sound is actually my third job.

Perhaps I misread your original post. I thought that you meant you were a rookie all around and the job just fell out of the sky and into your lap. I didn't mean to call you out. It was more of a spontaneous "Hey, wait a minute! How'd he do that?" reaction for me. That's all.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2011, 11:52:26 pm by Gordon Brinton »
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Re: stepping up to a new level
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2011, 12:39:40 am »

...It may very well be your location that is limiting your access to national acts. Is there a lot of competition for gigs? There aren't that many competent ops around my area, so my chances for better gigs is higher.

I would attribute it to equal parts of my poor location, client loyalty to existing engineers, and my own lack of pursuit. I could always go apply for work at Clair Brothers and attempt to clime the ladder. I could always apply for a business loan and invest heavily in advertising. I could always move to a large city and muscle my way in to the scene. I could always pound the pavement to hustle up gigs as house engineer at your better clubs. I could always write to all talent agencies and promoters within 100 miles and offer my services. But then, it is far easier to just sit here and complain. Besides, I already have a full-time day job and another part-time job that keeps me busy. Running sound is actually my third job.

Perhaps I misread your original post. I thought that you meant you were a rookie all around and the job just fell out of the sky and into your lap. I didn't mean to call you out. It was more of a spontaneous "Hey, wait a minute! How'd he do that?" reaction for me. That's all.

I don't think you came across as snarky, just frustrated.

Have fun, good luck.

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Re: stepping up to a new level
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2011, 11:10:23 pm »

To Luis:
From your post I infer that you're responsible, do your homework, and are conscious of the areas in which you'd like to improve your skills (what some call weaknesses); they're only weaknesses if they're not on your radar, and you're not making forward progress. Don't beat yourself up.  :)

I worry about people who oversell themselves, lack self-management skills, and don't know what they don't know. Such a person might jump in feet-first, subjecting others to needless risk. You didn't. You acted responsibly.

Sounds like you're on the right path to me. 
 
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