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Terry McNeil

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Pro Audio or Large Scale DJ systems??
« on: January 15, 2011, 05:08:36 am »

I'm so glad this forum was added because Electronic Dance Music is getting bigger and bigger everyday. Alot of guys who do Pro Audio for a living sometimes don't consider Large DJ systems a product of Pro Audio. Well I guess it's all in the way you look at things. For years I have been using some of the best in equipment in the world, to design Large Scale DJ systems for the top DJ in the world. More and more audio professionals are being asked to provide equipment and services for these events and this forum should be a great outlet for them.

I personally don't like to put labels on things. When it comes to designing a Large Scale DJ system, I like to use equipment that is going to be reliable and big make an impact on the crowd. When it comes to putting these systems together the main ingredient is the BASS. If the BASS ain't there then there's no vibe for the party. The Dance Music crowd wants to hear and FEEL the music. Reproducing great bass is an art as well as a science. There's nothing more exhilarating than watching 25,000 people bob their heads because the bass is moving so much air around and through them. Hours and hours of designing, modeling and testing can go into putting together the right combination of BASS. Using 2 types of subs for each system seems to work best for me because I like to split the BASS into Upper and Lower. This way you can give each section the maximum amount of volume and really stretch the frequencies to the limit.

Well I just wanted to start this thread so we can talk about Large Scale DJ systems. If there's any question I can answer feel free to post or send me a PM.

Thanks,
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Re: Pro Audio or Large Scale DJ systems??
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 07:29:37 am »

I think your statement may be contradictory. Perhaps instead of calling the system a "DJ" system you might imply more professionalism by stating you design large scale sound systems for DJs.
 
Just a thought, and welcome to the forums.
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Re: Pro Audio or Large Scale DJ systems??
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 01:11:43 pm »

Alot of guys who do Pro Audio for a living sometimes don't consider Large DJ systems a product of Pro Audio. Well I guess it's all in the way you look at things. For years I have been using some of the best in equipment in the world, to design Large Scale DJ systems for the top DJ in the world. More and more audio professionals are being asked to provide equipment and services for these events and this forum should be a great outlet for them.
I think this may be misinterpreted as hopefully this will be a good place to discuss issues such as that while high quality, reliable equipment is important, for both DJ or "pro audio" there is much more to being 'professional' than just the equipment used.  Hopefully the DJ forum will be a good resource for everyone to potentially benefit whether discussing DJ focused topics or bridging the DJ and "pro audio" worlds.
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Re: Pro Audio or Large Scale DJ systems??
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 03:00:22 pm »

I participate on the DJForums.com website which is one of the leading DJ forums currently and I have to agree that there is definitely a need for connections between Pro Audio and DJ gear. Many people on DJForums are recommended to go here to check out good opinions.

Too many people go on those forums, who may be brilliant with DJ gear - but don't know the first things about a good sound system - and unfortunately their performance probably suffers, not because they aren't skilled mixing, but because the FOH gear is setup wrong. 
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Tracy Garner

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Re: Pro Audio or Large Scale DJ systems??
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2011, 07:31:05 pm »

All the way back to the 80s when I started djing, the big differentiator for my gigs were all about the sound system we used versus the other guys. There were times when maybe we had different remixes or the newest tracks. When we showed up with a van load of actual PA cabinets (OK Old Peavey Sp2 and some JBL Scoops), it was a lot different than the guy who showed up with his Scott or Advent Home stereo speakers...lol

This forum will be the opportunity for some bridge building with the pro DJ and the pro sound folks.
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Re: Pro Audio or Large Scale DJ systems??
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2011, 05:31:02 pm »

We have done sound system for most of the top 10 dj's in the world.
Tiesto, David Gueta, Roger Sanchez, David Morales, Armin VanBuuren, to name a few.

I really dont consider the sound system we supplied as a DJ system. it is a nicely deployed sound reinforcement system that is a bit bass heavy. That is it.

Tune it right and that is it. Give me a DJ show any day over a live band show. Much easier. You just baby seat the system all night. That is it.

Main reaction of the people here about DJS is when they try to deploy a system and dont have a clue about it.

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Re: Pro Audio or Large Scale DJ systems??
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 06:46:31 pm »

So...We'll be looking for your guidance/insight because most of us haven't enjoyed the opportunity to work with those guys and may not know what they expect.

For example, there is a show coming to my town in a couple weeks where one of the top reggae dancehall/reggae artists is performing. The promoter just called today asking about sound. My quote was based on any track act that needed sound reinforcement in a venue that holds 1000 people. The promoter is a Reggae DJ and doesn't quite understand the value of having sound reinforcement versus having a wall of reggae speakers. He is still shopping around the other "reggae sound systems" (i.e. dj mixer with a mic. input) and hasn't asked any of the "sound reinforcement" companies about the gig.

Thoughts?

[edited to update spelling, etc.]
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Re: Pro Audio or Large Scale DJ systems??
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2011, 12:55:18 pm »

Reggae artists are used to a distinct sound that those reggae systems produce. Means a lot of basss and sizzle from like 100 piezo drivers.
Unlike other types of music reggae and dub-step has a very prolonged low notes.

And they need the look of the reggae systems as a part of the performance.

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Re: Pro Audio or Large Scale DJ systems??
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2011, 04:43:05 pm »

Back in the early 80s, I was hired to help put together one of those reggae sound systems. Each intricately painted box was the size of a refrigerator and each had 2x18, 1x15, 1x12, 1 community horn with a 2" driver, and 4 motorola piezo tweeters. The whole 16 box system ran on 5 Carver amps (4 Bottom and 1 Top amp). The way they set it up was flawed in many ways. They used the Master Left as the Bass Key and the Master Right as everything else. problem was they left the inputs stereo and no amount of explaining would convince anyone that a lot of music was missing from the mix.

So now, the reggae artist coming to town has a rider. It just says "1 wireless microphone needed with plenty of reverb, delay, and effects".

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Re: Pro Audio or Large Scale DJ systems??
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2011, 07:27:47 pm »

''When it comes to putting these systems together the main ingredient is the BASS. If the BASS ain't there then there's no vibe for the party. The Dance Music crowd wants to hear and FEEL the music. Reproducing great bass is an art as well as a science. There's nothing more exhilarating than watching 25,000 people bob their heads because the bass is moving so much air around and through them.''

Love it ! & your 100% right buddy... i've done this for many years now & love it :)

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