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JAOgann:
We are building a second WC (Worship Center) and plan to run simultaneous services but use only one pastor to deliver the sermon for both. There would be separate worship leaders in each WC since one might be contemporary and one traditional. It has occurred to us that synchronizing two services without disrupting one or both is going to be a problem. We plan to use a good video camera (and later several and a switcher) to capture (and record) the sermon and a good quality projector/screen in the other WC to show it. The timing/synch is the issue. What would be desirable would be a DVR style approach (when you pause a program, go get a snack and come back, playing it delayed from the incoming signal and skipping the commercials Very Happy ) but with live video. We could then plan for the sermon segment in the live WC to start slightly before the receiving WC sermon segment and just start the playback when the second WC service was ready for it. Has anyone done this with something other than a full-up $25k video server? We know a server would work but would like to do it with a less expensive approach. I am not familiar with TIVO. Would it accept HD or composite video and output it? Maybe a MAC with the right cards and software?? OR Does anyone have a better suggestion? We are short of pastors and would like the same sermon to be presented to all of the services without having the pastor run back and fourth between WC's. Thanks in advice for your help. Jim O, Marion, IA

Jon Ersland:
I've never had any experience with doing this...but know of 2 churches that are currently.  I would check with Life church out of Oklahoma City, www.lifechurch.tv or with MarsHill church out of Seattle, www.marshillchurch.org

cheers,

-jon

JAOgann:
Thanks Jon, I will pass that along to our pastor. He will be thrilled. Jim

Arnold B. Krueger:
Jim Ogann wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 13:59
We are building a second WC (Worship Center) and plan to run simultaneous services but use only one pastor to deliver the sermon for both. There would be separate worship leaders in each WC since one might be contemporary and one traditional. It has occurred to us that synchronizing two services without disrupting one or both is going to be a problem. We plan to use a good video camera (and later several and a switcher) to capture (and record) the sermon and a good quality projector/screen in the other WC to show it. The timing/synch is the issue. What would be desirable would be a DVR style approach (when you pause a program, go get a snack and come back, playing it delayed from the incoming signal and skipping the commercials Very Happy ) but with live video. We could then plan for the sermon segment in the live WC to start slightly before the receiving WC sermon segment and just start the playback when the second WC service was ready for it. Has anyone done this with something other than a full-up $25k video server? We know a server would work but would like to do it with a less expensive approach. I am not familiar with TIVO. Would it accept HD or composite video and output it? Maybe a MAC with the right cards and software?? OR Does anyone have a better suggestion? We are short of pastors and would like the same sermon to be presented to all of the services without having the pastor run back and fourth between WC's. Thanks in advice for your help. Jim O, Marion, IA


Most consumer-grade Digital Video Recorders(AKA DVRs), particularly the ones with hard drives, can concurrently record and play back a video signal. You basically start a recording, select the file that is being created for the recording and start playing it back at any time after the start of the recording process, including after the recording is completed.

TIVO is a brand of DVR that includes a monthly subscription program guide service that you don't need.

DVRs are still being sold that are suitable for your basic purpose at reasonable prices - less than $300. You can find them on the web if no place else.

You can also get video capture cards and software that implement a DVR on a PC or Mac for reasonble prices - usually less than $200.

The biggest concern I have relates to picture quality. Using a DVR limits picture quality to DVD quality which is really pretty good, but perhaps not up the quality of the best cameras and displays.

How acceptable DVD quality is to you will be dependent on the quality of your cameras and display devices. Given the difference in price between DVD quality and something appreciably better, you may want to start out with a DVR-based system and see how the basic concept works.

Mike Stahly:
Jim,

I'm interested to know how you're going to transmit the signal to the receiving WC, or is that part of the original question?

I assume it's in a different building? Maybe a different campus?

We're planning a Satellite service this Fall. My pastor is planning on using a Slingbox for transmission over Internet. Have you looked into that?

I guess all you need on the receiving end is a computer with network card and then into a projector. Or you could go into a DVR first so you could record the service as well.

Have you talked with anyone who has tried this yet?

Mike

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