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Alex Kerezy:
Hi,
  I am a violinist in the DFW area, that always plays with a PA system, and we use IEMs and something like a Berhinger Powerplay P-16 M.  Each user can adjust their own mix.

  My Rig:  I run my violin or chin cello into a Zoom U-44 audio interface, and then into my iPad where I put lots of fx on my signal, then back out to the Zoom and to the PA system.

   I keep finding it next to impossible to get my instrument right in the mix. It always seems too far in the back, or drowning out the rest of the mix. It's very frustrating.

 I had an IDEA: Since my Zoom has a direct headphone out..... what IF I tried to use TWO IEMs. One ear would come from my Zoom direct out, and the other ear would come from the house PA through the Powerplay.

   Is this just crazy???

   Another other instrumentalists find it hard to get the right mix?

Thanks!!
Alex

Scott Holtzman:

--- Quote from: Alex Kerezy on June 03, 2024, 09:28:34 AM ---Hi,
  I am a violinist in the DFW area, that always plays with a PA system, and we use IEMs and something like a Berhinger Powerplay P-16 M.  Each user can adjust their own mix.

  My Rig:  I run my violin or chin cello into a Zoom U-44 audio interface, and then into my iPad where I put lots of fx on my signal, then back out to the Zoom and to the PA system.

   I keep finding it next to impossible to get my instrument right in the mix. It always seems too far in the back, or drowning out the rest of the mix. It's very frustrating.

 I had an IDEA: Since my Zoom has a direct headphone out..... what IF I tried to use TWO IEMs. One ear would come from my Zoom direct out, and the other ear would come from the house PA through the Powerplay.

   Is this just crazy???

   Another other instrumentalists find it hard to get the right mix?

Thanks!!
Alex

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You could do that, where is your engineer?  If you are not sitting right in the mix level is not the solution.  First off does the creative director want you in front?  If so EQ and compression are the tools I would use to get it to sit in the right place.   

frank kayser:

--- Quote from: Scott Holtzman on June 03, 2024, 11:10:20 AM ---
You could do that, where is your engineer?  If you are not sitting right in the mix level is not the solution.  First off does the creative director want you in front?  If so EQ and compression are the tools I would use to get it to sit in the right place.

--- End quote ---


I may have misunderstood - either Alex or Scott.
I read this as not being able to get the mix IN HIS EARS right - either too in the back, or too up front in his ears, not the FOH mix.


I may be wrong, but I think it is a matter of not being able to judge where he is, probably since the IEM he's using is a fully wet mix, and by taking a feed right off the Zoom, a dry mix could be introduced in the other ear.

Scott Holtzman:

--- Quote from: frank kayser on June 03, 2024, 11:36:22 AM ---
I may have misunderstood - either Alex or Scott.
I read this as not being able to get the mix IN HIS EARS right - either too in the back, or too up front in his ears, not the FOH mix.


I may be wrong, but I think it is a matter of not being able to judge where he is, probably since the IEM he's using is a fully wet mix, and by taking a feed right off the Zoom, a dry mix could be introduced in the other ear.

--- End quote ---


I think he is in control of FOH, could be wrong.  Hopefully he will be back.



Alex Kerezy:
Thank you for your replies.
   Yes - the problem is what I hear in my IEMs, not what the FOH hears. I let the sound guy worry about the FOH. But I have trouble "clearly" or maybe "consistently" hearing myself in my iEMs.

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