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Al Craig

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Haze or Faze Machine Recommendation
« on: May 22, 2024, 10:49:18 PM »

Hi experts!

I'd like to get a haze or faze machine for mobile parties to use with my lighting setup to enhance the appearance. I previously had the Chauvet DJ 1DX unit a few years ago but wasn't very happy with it. Slow to heat, had issues with the thermal sensor, and no way to direct the output among other things. I'd like a unit that's reliable and uses minimal wattage power though to not overload circuits with my other gear while mobile. Was looking at these models. Any suggestions are appreciated. Curious the real difference of haze vs faze too in your experience. Thanks!

https://www.chauvetdj.com/products/hurricane-haze-2d/
https://www.adj.com/entour-faze (questionable quality according to review)

Any others worth considering?

Thanks,
Al

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Re: Haze or Faze Machine Recommendation
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2024, 06:31:55 AM »

Hi experts!

I'd like to get a haze or faze machine for mobile parties to use with my lighting setup to enhance the appearance. I previously had the Chauvet DJ 1DX unit a few years ago but wasn't very happy with it. Slow to heat, had issues with the thermal sensor, and no way to direct the output among other things. I'd like a unit that's reliable and uses minimal wattage power though to not overload circuits with my other gear while mobile. Was looking at these models. Any suggestions are appreciated. Curious the real difference of haze vs faze too in your experience. Thanks!

https://www.chauvetdj.com/products/hurricane-haze-2d/
https://www.adj.com/entour-faze (questionable quality according to review)

Any others worth considering?

Thanks,
Al


Neither of those are really tour or road ready, they are MI crap and I don't know if anyone makes a case for them.  I am very happy with our Antari and it has a slick roadcase. 


https://www.stagelightingstore.com/Antari-Single-Vented-Road-Case-for-Z-350
https://www.stagelightingstore.com/Elation-Antari-Z-350-Fazer

The Antari fluid is expensive but it lasts forever.

If you are looking for more of a touring model we have a Radiance and it needs maintenance, probably because of the serious abuse at festivals.  It can fill a 32x28 stage in about 10 minutes with wonderful haze.   If you are looking for something of that level let me know.


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Re: Haze or Faze Machine Recommendation
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2024, 06:46:53 AM »

I've got 4 of the Ultratec Radiance hazers myself.  They're an industry standard model for water-based haze, and they're very easy to clean and service. 

Haze/faze/fog really comes down to the particle size of what's billowing from the machine.  Oil-based hazers produce much finer particles and thus are what many consider to be "true" haze, but due to various considerations when using oil they're often not allowed in many venues.  Water-based haze produces larger particles and can sometimes trend into the territory of "fog", but often this depends on the fluid formulation you're using.
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Re: Haze or Faze Machine Recommendation
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2024, 03:33:19 PM »

I had the Chauvet that you linked to.  Nothing special. did the job, but didn't last.  Ended up giving it away.

The best unit I've ever used is the Reel EFX DF-50.  That bad boy is in a class of it's own!!
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Re: Haze or Faze Machine Recommendation
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2024, 12:01:38 AM »

Antari z350 here, zero issues and it sips fluid.
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Re: Haze or Faze Machine Recommendation
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2024, 05:38:53 PM »

Like Jeff and Brian, I finally broke down and purchased two Radiance hazers for water-based haze and a DF-50 for oil-based haze.  It was "cry once/buy once" deal, but I glad I'm did.  For indoor events the DF-50 has extreme hang time, and the Radiance hazers have huge output while sipping fluid.  I have not tried the Antari z350, but i highly recommend the other two units.  I am not a dealer for either.
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Re: Haze or Faze Machine Recommendation
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2024, 07:00:49 PM »

Antari z350 here, zero issues and it sips fluid.

Antari Z-350 here as well, with the custom case.  Works reliably as advertised.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2024, 02:20:58 PM »

I have the Elation Magma Prime which has always seemed to me to be the same guts as the Antari Z-350 but with a more advanced interface. (not confirmed) The price seems to be about the same and my experience with the Elation version mirrors the Z-350 - super easy maintenance, sips the fluid, puts out a lot of haze for it's size, very reliable over past 2 years, great form factor.  The Elation version has a LCD touch panel and card slots for a wireless remote that is optional.  The LCD panel allows setting and storing several fan/output settings including interval and also where you set DMX address and such rather than dip switches.  It also has a True1 power cord inlet which is a nice touch.  Note that the DMX is 5-pin.
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Re: Haze or Faze Machine Recommendation
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2024, 07:07:18 PM »

Uniques work, as does the Robe 1050ft and the X1 (or their Antari variants) none are expensive.
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Re: Haze or Faze Machine Recommendation
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2024, 09:07:46 PM »

I had the Chauvet that you linked to.  Nothing special. did the job, but didn't last.  Ended up giving it away.

The best unit I've ever used is the Reel EFX DF-50.  That bad boy is in a class of it's own!!

We hazed a 6,000 seat arena with ONE DF-50.  Much bigger than that, we used 2 units.  And for the output they were thrifty with juice.  The only down side was they were relatively noisy.
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