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Author Topic: Hydrophones -What's the effect of the density used in the compound?  (Read 293 times)

Miguel Dahl

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Hi,

A very specific question I've not been able to figure out of, and the question doesn't belong in the in the other groups I guess..

I want to build some high quality hydrophones. I found a recipe for it and what components to be used, and got an understanding why they should be used.
But one thing I can't figure out of is exactly why one would want to use a compound with the same density (specific gravity, SG) as the water?

What happens if I mold the piezo in a compound with a higher or lower density than the water I'm submerging it into? Defraction, refraction etc.. But what happens, what's the result?
« Last Edit: September 28, 2023, 01:07:32 PM by Miguel Dahl »
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Stephen Swaffer

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Re: Hydrophones -What's the effect of the density used in the compound?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2023, 01:19:20 PM »

Speculating a bit-I know that fish/depth finders sometimes will be affected and see thermoclines-temperature differences with slight density changes.  Since they work on reflections I would assume some of the signal is reflected by the density change.  Reflected would imply a loss of sound energy and thus a loss in sensitivity of the mic in your case.
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Re: Hydrophones -What's the effect of the density used in the compound?
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2023, 01:27:58 PM »

Speculating a bit-I know that fish/depth finders sometimes will be affected and see thermoclines-temperature differences with slight density changes.  Since they work on reflections I would assume some of the signal is reflected by the density change.  Reflected would imply a loss of sound energy and thus a loss in sensitivity of the mic in your case.

Ooh, reflections. a sound wave propagating through a medium, meets a medum of higher density, higher frequencies are reflected, or attentuated? That opened up in some sense.
Just like you can hear more of the lower frequencies through a wall, while higher frequencies doesn't carry through because of lower energy.

So, a higher density could mean more reflections = attanuation of higher frequencies.

I think I just understood it, if it's about that.
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Re: Hydrophones -What's the effect of the density used in the compound?
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2023, 04:07:29 PM »

Just like terminating RF lines with same impedance  to maximize signal transfer....

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Re: Hydrophones -What's the effect of the density used in the compound?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2023, 08:43:14 PM »

Sound waves in water will change speed and direction when hitting different water temperatures and densities.
By monitoring the water characteristics submarines can hide in different water layers.

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