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Eddie Ybarra

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Automated Power?
« on: July 10, 2023, 08:12:38 PM »

So at the theme park I work at the food court also has a stage for small band shows and other special
events, but the PA also plays bgm during the day. The problem is that sometimes there is no one to fire up the rig in the morning or turn it off when the food closes. So what is out there that can power up the
PA system on some sort of schedule or remotely over the web or anything like that?
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Re: Automated Power?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2023, 08:25:59 PM »

There are power sequencing systems that can be set to do that very thing.
Furman has systems that will do that. It may take some remote modules to power
equipment if various parts are in different locations or to spread the power load
across multiple circuits.

I have done that what your looking to do with the Furman equipment with a standard programmable power timer that closes a relay starting the power sequence.

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Re: Automated Power?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2023, 08:32:25 PM »

Do you happen to have a link to the programmable timer?
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Re: Automated Power?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2023, 08:35:47 PM »

The system is more than just a timer.....unless it is a REALLY simple system.

What components make up the sound system, amps, mixer, processors, ect?

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Re: Automated Power?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2023, 08:51:25 PM »

The rack has a couple of driverack 260s a bunch of qsc ex1600 and some probably even older klark teknik dn716. Currently the mixer lives on stage and we use the the analog patchbay to get in and out of the system. Roughly every amp is on its own circuit.
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Re: Automated Power?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2023, 09:12:21 PM »

Is there any power sequencing equipment in place already?

If not you going to need at least a master sequencer line a CN1800 at the mixer for the mixer
and another other input great.
At the rack maybe another CN1800 for the processing and remote modules for the power amp circuits.

 https://furmanpower.com/power-sequencing/

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Re: Automated Power?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2023, 09:32:49 PM »

There's a ton of gear out there that can do this sort of thing today.

In the network world, there are multi circuit devices that monitor load as well as can turn on and off individual outlets.

https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/pdu/

There's also a schmuck ton of stuff in the consumer world that can be used for this, although then you're at the mercy of consumer grade operations.

Alternatively, you could put relays or contactors on the circuits you want to control, then run low voltage lines to a central control and then use any number of remote relay control systems.
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Re: Automated Power?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2023, 09:49:15 PM »

There isn’t any power sequencing currently, do you have any experience with the blue bolt control that Furman uses and how has the reliability been?
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Re: Automated Power?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2023, 11:01:30 PM »

There isn’t any power sequencing currently, do you have any experience with the blue bolt control that Furman uses and how has the reliability been?

Limited Bluebolt experience, it worked for the monitoring purpose.
I would keep it simple....as can be with a timer and a PSREL plugged into it to give the contact closure starting the power up process and when the timer turns off the contacts open starting the power down process.

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Re: Automated Power?
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2023, 11:43:58 AM »

Check your BGM source.  Sometimes commercial satellite receivers will have automation and/or scheduling in them.  The one I use I can program on and off times, output leveles and even station changes at specific times.  The rest of the system stays on all of the time.  A good DSP be can schedule events to turn down an input at closing time.
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