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Matt Vivlamore

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Re: Drum Channel Layout
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2023, 12:03:30 PM »

Years ago when I was working with the Wedding band, I built a 12ch drum snake using CPC's disconnects for their drum kit and had a rack panel for quick set-ups.  Since then it's pretty much has stayed the same and seems to still fit my needs.  I have a stage box and a 25' extension; with the 25' extension I can home run it to the Stage Box or take out the 25' chunk and plug it directly into a 20ch drop snake (tag other backline into that).

My Channel Layout is:
1) Kick
2) Snare
3) HH
4) Tom1
5) Tom2
6) Floor Tom
7) OH
8. Tracks
9) spare (kick2)
10) spare (snare bottom)
11) spare (OH2)
12) spare (monitor return)
        (The last 5ch's are short lengths). 


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Re: Drum Channel Layout
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2023, 06:58:12 AM »

I've resigned myself to the following in my default start file/layout and stage.  Depending on the day, a Whirlwind DrumDrop or a straight Whirlwind MINI 12. 

Patch Sheet: https://lehighlive.s3.amazonaws.com/2023%20-%20Blank%20Patch.xlsx

Kick In
Kick Out
Snare Top
Snare Bottom
Hi-Hats
Rack 1
Rack 2
Floor 1
Floor 2 - TBD DOS
Overhead SR
Overhead SL
Spare / Drum Vocal

Triggers, pads, and other hocus-pocus can ride on another box that usually snags some midstage amps/backline. 
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Re: Drum Channel Layout
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2023, 08:28:09 AM »

What do you think of these drum channel layouts?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JYzyhGq3wntzM3x48F9DnHDYWCWmNEzznP0U5J3pCyo/edit?usp=sharing

My plan is to have Elite Core build me a custom drum snake that makes deploying drum mics silly fast.

For Context:
-Triggers are for myself (gates mainly)
-Tracks, loops, click, drum machine, etc. Are all on other channels.

For reference, various drum setups.
https://drumhelper.com/learning-drums/popular-drum-setup-ideas-and-configurations-with-diagrams/

For my purposes.
How often I see a typical setup on one of my gigs.
65% - 4-Piece Drum Setup
30% - 5-Piece Drum Setup
3%   - 6-Piece Drum Setup
1%   - 3-Piece Drum Setup
1%   - 7-Piece Drum Setup

Rather than use drum snake with various length cables which can sometimes get tangled up, I find it faster to use a prelabeled drop snake and store my drum mics with the mic cables attached to the mics.
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Re: Drum Channel Layout
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2023, 09:39:58 AM »

I like:
After vocals, guitars, keys and whatnots..
List subject to change on band requirements and venue size

10 Bass
11 Kick in
12 Kick out (if used)
13 Snare (Rarely use bottom. Placement is everything. My ND-308 picks up the springs easily)
14 Snare FX
15 Hat
16 Rack 1
17 Rack 2
18 Rack 3
19 Floor 1
20 Floor 2
21 Floor 3 (if used)
22 O-head one side
23 o-head other side  ::)
24 submix of toys, if used L
25 submix of toys, if used R

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Re: Drum Channel Layout
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2023, 03:11:29 PM »

My plan is to have Elite Core build me a custom drum snake that makes deploying drum mics silly fast.

This makes sense on a specific drum kit, but invariably ends up just being wrong for the kit that the drummer brought for today's show.

A drop snake set next to the kick means just using short patch cables to get where you need.  An assortment of 5 or 10 foot XLRs then is all you need to connect each mic.  It can actually be easier to just grab a cable and patch vs having to sort through which connector is needed from the bundle at the end of the snake.
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Re: Drum Channel Layout
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2023, 03:31:38 PM »

A drop snake set next to the kick means just using short patch cables to get where you need.  An assortment of 5 or 10 foot XLRs then is all you need to connect each mic.  It can actually be easier to just grab a cable and patch vs having to sort through which connector is needed from the bundle at the end of the snake.

+1

In the world of one-offs, a premade drum loom is going to do more harm than good.

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Re: Drum Channel Layout
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2023, 07:22:15 PM »

+1

In the world of one-offs, a premade drum loom is going to do more harm than good.

Another +1.

Drum looms need "No More Tangles" conditioning because their nature is to become dreadlocks.

If the loom stays with the drum kit, fine, but like Steve said, in one-off world they're a big pain.
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Re: Drum Channel Layout
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